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Post by Dzufast on Jul 1, 2019 10:59:25 GMT -8
I reject your reality and substitute my own! ^^ We are the FIA. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. I am not the droid you are looking for. ![](https://i.imgflip.com/ibo0i.jpg)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 11:16:31 GMT -8
^ +++
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Post by struns on Jul 1, 2019 12:01:43 GMT -8
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Post by katzevonswish on Jul 1, 2019 21:53:17 GMT -8
Irrespective of what the rules say, I'm quite glad that no penalty was given. Charles first F1 win should come in style. Plus if this means that drivers will actually be able to race each other, it can only be a good thing. That said, in anticipation of Ferrari being given a dumbass penalty at Silverstone, I have all three of my flamethrowers on slow charge.
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Post by struns on Jul 2, 2019 5:33:18 GMT -8
Bottas: “I know it’s hard losing that way but not as hard as having your team order you to move aside and let Lewis pass to win the 2018 Russian GP” ![](https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/65712507_2299952986754799_365689501449715712_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_oc=AQmfAwXWgnY4mjz6aGlMtV_gSCY1_ewb2u0w7Z18RM8rXpE8WEYGB-N_j__ioOOT9vXNlqrDH6WUiDyRvW2w9KKR&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=e07d187686162be5664dd8b2a586fa02&oe=5DC2A0D5)
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Post by kingfisher on Jul 2, 2019 22:45:34 GMT -8
By the book, Max gets a penalty -- no question! However, Leclerc made two mistakes that may have figured into the decision. Leclerc's first mistake was giving Max the inside. He was probably trying to prevent Max from getting a good run on the outside. His second mistake was thinking Max would play fair after Leclerc was able to get a better run coming out of the corner on the outside the previous lap. Max was clearly faster, and we will never know if he could have made the pass anyway because he chose the chickenshit method -- just like Hamilton does -- and that will be his legacy despite the fact that he is a very exceptional driver. Gentleman racers don't win as often as dirty racers. BINGO That really sums it up. Max clearly had the speed to win but chose the unsporting method to do so at that corner. I love what Jody Scheckter (1979 Champion) said about Lauda; "He was always absolutely correct" regarding Lauda's driving ethics. It's what makes a champion a complete one. Leave your opponent a space to compete with you. Otherwise by forcing him off, you are taking the chicken-shit cowards way. If you're really that good, you'll find a legitimate way past. Max has the speed and talent to be champion, but like the other chicken-shits in the sport's history, they'll also be remembered the way they won.
I only hope that Max be forced off in the future, if for no other reason than to hear if he gracefully concedes the position as he should. He knows it so intimately from the inside.
And screw you Michael Masi and your pathetic excuse for taking so long to deliver the verdict. The video evidence provided on this site was also available to the stewards (and more) to make a quick enough determination regarding Max's forcing Leclerc off the circuit. Your verdict should have been delivered by the following lap period! Same to be said of Canada. Those chicken-shits just did not want a riot on their hands, pure and simple.
Cowards through and through.
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Post by chernaudi on Jul 2, 2019 23:29:22 GMT -8
The way that the FIA have structured the Officials panel is that they almost always have the final say, not the race director. Unlike say NASCAR or IMSA where the race director has a lot of leeway on making his own calls. I myself think that the way that the FIA do it for F1 is outdated. If the race director can't call everything on his own, refer it to one official whose purpose it is to make calls. Doing it by committee basically is why it takes so long to make what should usually be ball or strike calls.
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Post by mmi16 on Jul 3, 2019 5:12:10 GMT -8
The way that the FIA have structured the Officials panel is that they almost always have the final say, not the race director. Unlike say NASCAR or IMSA where the race director has a lot of leeway on making his own calls. I myself think that the way that the FIA do it for F1 is outdated. If the race director can't call everything on his own, refer it to one official whose purpose it is to make calls. Doing it by committee basically is why it takes so long to make what should usually be ball or strike calls. And if the Race Director can't or won't make a decision, only then does it go to the Stewards.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 3, 2019 17:42:39 GMT -8
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Post by montybriscoe on Jul 3, 2019 18:16:12 GMT -8
Good, hard racing! Loved it! Nothing dirty.
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Post by olderguysrule on Jul 3, 2019 18:17:07 GMT -8
I saw that. sounds like damage control to me as the radiators didn't seem to be a problem a week b-4 in france.
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Post by loudpedal on Jul 3, 2019 18:39:34 GMT -8
the radiators didn't seem to be a problem a week b-4 in france. High elevation, thinner air, less cooling capacity. It's a real thing.
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Post by mmi16 on Jul 3, 2019 18:56:17 GMT -8
the radiators didn't seem to be a problem a week b-4 in france. High elevation, thinner air, less cooling capacity. It's a real thing. For a organization like MB it is also a bullshit excuse
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Post by Pistola on Jul 4, 2019 6:57:14 GMT -8
High elevation, thinner air, less cooling capacity. It's a real thing. For a organization like MB it is also a bullshit excuse I guess they should have brought more air with them.
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Post by mmi16 on Jul 4, 2019 9:23:23 GMT -8
For a organization like MB it is also a bullshit excuse I guess they should have brought more air with them. More engineering.
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Post by Pistola on Jul 4, 2019 10:10:31 GMT -8
I guess they should have brought more air with them. More engineering. Nah. Everybody suffered from the unusual heat. Red Bull got the win but probably took a lot of life out of the engine by pushing it so hard. From the start of the season they have expected to take Honda engine penalties. Mercedes could afford not to win and keep their engines running which means that it's likely that the 3 engine rule was the biggest factor for them. FWIW the last 2 races here were won by Red Bull as were the last 2 in Mexico City both at altitude. Especially in Mexico City last year it wasn't the engine but the superior downforce that got the win.
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Post by olderguysrule on Jul 5, 2019 12:22:28 GMT -8
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