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Post by Sabrina81 on Aug 29, 2021 7:50:44 GMT -8
Starting this because apparently we have a triple header!
This should be fun!
Discuss!
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Post by pushtopass on Aug 29, 2021 12:03:55 GMT -8
I haven't looked at the track but I cannot imagine there is much elevation change!
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Post by Sabrina81 on Aug 29, 2021 12:43:51 GMT -8
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Aug 29, 2021 15:27:30 GMT -8
I haven't looked at the track but I cannot imagine there is much elevation change! There is, a surprising amount. A bit under 30ft, and it's up and down the whole way. Like a mini rollercoaster. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Aug 29, 2021 15:44:36 GMT -8
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Post by Codfish on Aug 29, 2021 18:47:53 GMT -8
Hot mix 101; the science if bituminous concrete... The banked turn is awesome !
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Post by jfme on Aug 30, 2021 15:45:54 GMT -8
Hopefully Pirelli has scratched off that false "Full Wet" tire designation.
Maybe they should call it "Moist" "Damp" or "Clammy" tires.
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Post by jmjgt on Aug 30, 2021 18:01:02 GMT -8
Hopefully Pirelli has scratched off that false "Full Wet" tire designation. Maybe they should call it "Moist" "Damp" or "Clammy" tires. How about wet within limits printed on the side wall.  Seriously though there are limits to everything, and racing in the wet on one the the fastest tracks on the calendar takes extra precaution. If it was a street track they'd probably would have raced. But Spa has too many fast corners, long straights and places where water streams across the track. If anything we should blame Liberty for jamming so many races in one season as to not leave an extra day to hold a Monday make-up race, not gonna even get started on the 3 week lay off. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Sept 1, 2021 8:29:57 GMT -8
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Sept 1, 2021 8:31:35 GMT -8
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Sept 1, 2021 8:34:52 GMT -8
F1 opts against DRS use on Zandvoort bankingFormula 1 drivers will have an even tougher time overtaking at Zandvoort than originally anticipated, with the FIA electing not to allow DRS use through the final banked corner.F1 chiefs had originally proposed the idea of a banked last turn in a bid to offer a much longer period of full-throttle running than the original configuration allowed. With passing places extremely limited on the narrow circuit, it was felt that this design would at least give a chance of some action. Computer simulations show that the flat out banked bend should add another 340 metres of flat out action – on top of the 678 metres of straight that follows. The banking was made so extreme – with a profiling of 32 percent, the equivalent of 18 degrees – to give drivers enough load through the corner to run with DRS open. However, for the inaugural Dutch GP this weekend, the FIA has elected to play it safe and will only allow DRS to be opened after the corner. Circuit chief Jan Lammers said on Wednesday: “That is the decision of the FIA. They just want to see how it goes this year and they want to collect data in real life. “They’re not taking any risks and that’s understandable for this first edition in 36 years.” www.autosport.com/f1/news/f1-opts-against-drs-use-on-zandvoort-banking/6658268/?_bta_tid=32296705235476429860208380237216636854897944645731833331470106130825938413726034285141630668073151467275
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Post by pushtopass on Sept 1, 2021 8:35:20 GMT -8
Until I saw the short clip I was thinking of an old karting trophy with the name scratched out and "Dutch GP" etched over it :-) |
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Post by r60man on Sept 1, 2021 12:52:19 GMT -8
The lap with Max reminds me of a smaller Silverstone. Lots of fast corners and not so many places to pass.
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Post by Red_Hercules on Sept 1, 2021 17:02:39 GMT -8
F1 opts against DRS use on Zandvoort bankingFormula 1 drivers will have an even tougher time overtaking at Zandvoort than originally anticipated, with the FIA electing not to allow DRS use through the final banked corner.F1 chiefs had originally proposed the idea of a banked last turn in a bid to offer a much longer period of full-throttle running than the original configuration allowed. With passing places extremely limited on the narrow circuit, it was felt that this design would at least give a chance of some action. Computer simulations show that the flat out banked bend should add another 340 metres of flat out action – on top of the 678 metres of straight that follows. The banking was made so extreme – with a profiling of 32 percent, the equivalent of 18 degrees – to give drivers enough load through the corner to run with DRS open. However, for the inaugural Dutch GP this weekend, the FIA has elected to play it safe and will only allow DRS to be opened after the corner. Circuit chief Jan Lammers said on Wednesday: “That is the decision of the FIA. They just want to see how it goes this year and they want to collect data in real life. “They’re not taking any risks and that’s understandable for this first edition in 36 years.” www.autosport.com/f1/news/f1-opts-against-drs-use-on-zandvoort-banking/6658268/?_bta_tid=32296705235476429860208380237216636854897944645731833331470106130825938413726034285141630668073151467275 How does that turn's banking compare to banked circuits in America? |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Sept 1, 2021 17:55:51 GMT -8
How does that turn's banking compare to banked circuits in America? If you watch the videos in posts 3, 4 and 5 in this thread you will find out.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2021 5:44:56 GMT -8
Gee. Banked corners are faster.
Who knew?
Did LuLu come up with this idea?
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Post by struns on Sept 2, 2021 5:52:50 GMT -8
Ferrari will be a bit later.. (Stuck in Zandvoort)  |
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Post by Pistola on Sept 2, 2021 6:43:21 GMT -8
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Sept 2, 2021 9:37:35 GMT -8
F1 opts against DRS use on Zandvoort bankingFormula 1 drivers will have an even tougher time overtaking at Zandvoort than originally anticipated, with the FIA electing not to allow DRS use through the final banked corner.F1 chiefs had originally proposed the idea of a banked last turn in a bid to offer a much longer period of full-throttle running than the original configuration allowed. With passing places extremely limited on the narrow circuit, it was felt that this design would at least give a chance of some action. Computer simulations show that the flat out banked bend should add another 340 metres of flat out action – on top of the 678 metres of straight that follows. The banking was made so extreme – with a profiling of 32 percent, the equivalent of 18 degrees – to give drivers enough load through the corner to run with DRS open. However, for the inaugural Dutch GP this weekend, the FIA has elected to play it safe and will only allow DRS to be opened after the corner. Circuit chief Jan Lammers said on Wednesday: “That is the decision of the FIA. They just want to see how it goes this year and they want to collect data in real life. “They’re not taking any risks and that’s understandable for this first edition in 36 years.” www.autosport.com/f1/news/f1-opts-against-drs-use-on-zandvoort-banking/6658268/?_bta_tid=32296705235476429860208380237216636854897944645731833331470106130825938413726034285141630668073151467275 How does that turn's banking compare to banked circuits in America? I believe it's 17-18 degrees, excellent half mile short track banking. The now defunct Mesa Marin in CA was 17 degrees, iirc. Fast as hell. |
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Post by jmjgt on Sept 2, 2021 11:04:41 GMT -8
That's what happens when you sell off your circuit piece by piece like Zandvoort did 30 years ago. There's a housing development where the old last turn and about a third of the front straight used to be. |
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Seriously though there are limits to everything, and racing in the wet on one the the fastest tracks on the calendar takes extra precaution. If it was a street track they'd probably would have raced. But Spa has too many fast corners, long straights and places where water streams across the track. If anything we should blame Liberty for jamming so many races in one season as to not leave an extra day to hold a Monday make-up race, not gonna even get started on the 3 week lay off. 
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
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