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Post by mmi16 on Sept 5, 2021 13:02:12 GMT -8
More Cow Bell
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Post by Pistola on Sept 5, 2021 13:07:57 GMT -8
In the end the banked turns were disappointing one line wonders. They were able to stay closer to each other in the last turn than i though but they need to fix turn 3. The inside drops too much and unloads the cars. I don't know if turn 3 will ever be anything. All the possible lines converge at the same spot at almost the same time on exit. For the inside line it's either back off or have an accident. The final banked curve seems to be defined by how well they get off the esses and a second line doesn't seem like it will ever be an option. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Sept 5, 2021 13:21:29 GMT -8
They were able to stay closer to each other in the last turn than i though but they need to fix turn 3. The inside drops too much and unloads the cars. I don't know if turn 3 will ever be anything. All the possible lines converge at the same spot at almost the same time on exit. For the inside line it's either back off or have an accident. The final banked curve seems to be defined by how well they get off the esses and a second line doesn't seem like it will ever be an option. it looked to me the length of cars was the real issue. These beast are boats and thus can't be rotated quickly enough to create a different line. I am too lazy to look it up, are next year's cars going to be significantly shorter? |
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Post by jmjgt on Sept 5, 2021 13:21:31 GMT -8
They were able to stay closer to each other in the last turn than i though but they need to fix turn 3. The inside drops too much and unloads the cars. I don't know if turn 3 will ever be anything. All the possible lines converge at the same spot at almost the same time on exit. For the inside line it's either back off or have an accident. The final banked curve seems to be defined by how well they get off the esses and a second line doesn't seem like it will ever be an option. That's my point, the inside line drops into a trough while the outside rises slightly from entrance track height (like the last turn). The first corner (TARZAN) is actually banked to where the outside rises. That's why they can pass there. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Sept 5, 2021 13:25:11 GMT -8
By this photo is does look like the wheelbase will shorter, maybe that will help.  |
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Post by mikey on Sept 5, 2021 13:26:30 GMT -8
Mercedes: "Slow down bitch, only Hamilton, your master, can do fast laps" I wonder if that wasn't a subtle message to George Russell to be careful what he's getting into. |
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Post by mmi16 on Sept 5, 2021 13:39:41 GMT -8
By this photo is does look like the wheelbase will shorter, maybe that will help. Is wheelbase going to be mandated in 2022. I think at present there is not a specific wheelbase - there is a allowable range that the cars can be constructed to. |
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Post by jmjgt on Sept 5, 2021 14:07:11 GMT -8
The max wheelbase for next year is 3,600 millimeters, 4 inches shorter than the current longest. Most of the reduction will come from the front end which should also shorten the nose. The rear wing will also lose the long end plates, altogether the cars should be at least 18 inches shorter.
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Post by Pistola on Sept 5, 2021 14:07:46 GMT -8
By this photo is does look like the wheelbase will shorter, maybe that will help. For 2022 the wheelbase is set at 3600 mm max. Most if not all the cars are longer than that now. |
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Post by Pistola on Sept 5, 2021 14:12:21 GMT -8
it looked to me the length of cars was the real issue. These beast are boats and thus can't be rotated quickly enough to create a different line. I am too lazy to look it up, are next year's cars going to be significantly shorter? I'd love to see Alonso hustle the Renault V10 he drove at Abu Dhabi around this track. |
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Post by pushtopass on Sept 5, 2021 14:23:04 GMT -8
I don't know if turn 3 will ever be anything. All the possible lines converge at the same spot at almost the same time on exit. For the inside line it's either back off or have an accident. The final banked curve seems to be defined by how well they get off the esses and a second line doesn't seem like it will ever be an option. it looked to me the length of cars was the real issue. These beast are boats and thus can't be rotated quickly enough to create a different line. I am too lazy to look it up, are next year's cars going to be significantly shorter? How hard is it to Google "length of 2022 F1 cars?" :-) Couldn't resist. |
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Post by pushtopass on Sept 5, 2021 14:24:21 GMT -8
Mercedes: "Slow down bitch, only Hamilton, your master, can do fast laps" I wonder if that wasn't a subtle message to George Russell to be careful what he's getting into. This seemed more like a straightforward "Lewis is going to lose the championship lead and he is way ahead of you so every point counts for him" order. All about the points. Clearly Bottas is not going to win the WDC this year and Lewis might. |
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Post by Pistola on Sept 5, 2021 14:57:15 GMT -8
The first corner (TARZAN) is actually banked to where the outside rises. That's why they can pass there. At least one of those was Perez on Ricciardo but it was made easier by Perez having the soft tire to DR's hards. Norris on the other hand wasn't going to give it up in the same tire situation. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Sept 5, 2021 15:05:54 GMT -8
it looked to me the length of cars was the real issue. These beast are boats and thus can't be rotated quickly enough to create a different line. I am too lazy to look it up, are next year's cars going to be significantly shorter? How hard is it to Google "length of 2022 F1 cars?" :-) Couldn't resist. Not that hard because I did it. And to be fair to me, no one posted a video comparing the cars two post above mine. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Sept 5, 2021 15:34:44 GMT -8
3600mm is still a land yacht.
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Post by jmjgt on Sept 5, 2021 15:36:41 GMT -8
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Post by jmjgt on Sept 5, 2021 15:44:26 GMT -8
The first corner (TARZAN) is actually banked to where the outside rises. That's why they can pass there. At least one of those was Perez on Ricciardo but it was made easier by Perez having the soft tire to DR's hards. Norris on the other hand wasn't going to give it up in the same tire situation. Drivers passed around the outside of Tarzan all the time back in the day, Andretti used to hate the turn. Norris and Perez almost had the same shunt Mario and Hunt did. |
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Post by mmi16 on Sept 5, 2021 15:59:51 GMT -8
By this photo is does look like the wheelbase will shorter, maybe that will help. For 2022 the wheelbase is set at 3600 mm max. Most if not all the cars are longer than that now. Is there a minimum of less than 3600 mm? |
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Post by snuffmoviestar on Sept 5, 2021 16:41:45 GMT -8
For 2022 the wheelbase is set at 3600 mm max. Most if not all the cars are longer than that now. Is there a minimum of less than 3600 mm? Yes. |
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Post by snuffmoviestar on Sept 5, 2021 16:42:58 GMT -8
I thought Cow Bell was just right. |
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