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Post by jmjgt on Mar 21, 2022 14:06:13 GMT -8
Which then begs the question - did RB start with FULL tanks or did they 'game plan' the amount of fuel on board? Probably the latter, but not having done race sims in testing they didn't have the data the rest did about low fuel levels and it's effects on the part. |
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Post by olderguysrule on Mar 21, 2022 14:08:40 GMT -8
Which then begs the question - did RB start with FULL tanks or did they 'game plan' the amount of fuel on board? Scrabs said the same as mark hughes in the Peter what's his name review of the race. |
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Post by jmjgt on Mar 21, 2022 14:10:12 GMT -8
There's a bunch of RB fans on the Tube saying Horner should say the ICE was damaged and petition for an extra one. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Mar 21, 2022 14:47:07 GMT -8
There's a bunch of RB fans on the Tube saying Horner should say the ICE was damaged and petition for an extra one. They can try but fat chance of that happening. |
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Post by Zytes on Mar 21, 2022 14:55:33 GMT -8
There's a bunch of RB fans on the Tube saying Horner should say the ICE was damaged and petition for an extra one. They can try but fat chance of that happening. Don't they have to show the actual damage, or does the FIA trust the teams word on these sorts of claims? |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Mar 21, 2022 15:57:36 GMT -8
They can try but fat chance of that happening. Don't they have to show the actual damage, or does the FIA trust the teams word on these sorts of claims? The team would have to show the actual damage. Even with that they would also have to prove/convince the FIA that the damage was caused by the faulty FIA mandated spec pump rather than the other parts involved, venturi lifts, fuel cell, baffles, etc, that RedBull designed/built. It's a stretch. |
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Post by mmi16 on Mar 21, 2022 16:17:11 GMT -8
Which then begs the question - did RB start with FULL tanks or did they 'game plan' the amount of fuel on board? Probably the latter, but not having done race sims in testing they didn't have the data the rest did about low fuel levels and it's effects on the part. Aren't they running minimal fuel during their Q sessions? Less fuel than they are required to provide for testing at the completion of the race? |
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Post by Pistola on Mar 21, 2022 16:39:22 GMT -8
Probably the latter, but not having done race sims in testing they didn't have the data the rest did about low fuel levels and it's effects on the part. Aren't they running minimal fuel during their Q sessions? Less fuel than they are required to provide for testing at the completion of the race? They have to be able to provide a fuel sample at any time during the weekend not just after the race. Yes they run low on fuel but it's fresh from the fuel rig in the pits so the conditions inside the tank aren't the same as at the end of a race. |
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Post by jfme on Mar 21, 2022 18:45:10 GMT -8
There's a bunch of RB fans on the Tube saying Horner should say the ICE was damaged and petition for an extra one. This crap pisses me off. Yes Horner, ask for a new transmission while you are at it. |
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Post by Boomer on Mar 21, 2022 20:02:16 GMT -8
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It never hurts to ask?
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Mar 22, 2022 0:35:59 GMT -8
Yes, it can. It can damage your credibility by asking for things you don't deserve, ruining your chances for getting a borderline request granted in the future. |
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Post by overboost on Mar 22, 2022 4:45:11 GMT -8
If the FIA supplied a bum part then they are on the hook.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Mar 22, 2022 5:16:09 GMT -8
If the FIA supplied a bum part then they are on the hook. Is it out of the realm of possibility that the supplier did not account for the ethanol content in choosing seals and o-rings in these pumps? |
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Post by olderguysrule on Mar 22, 2022 5:34:35 GMT -8
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Mar 22, 2022 5:42:38 GMT -8
I was right! It IS the ethanol attacking the pumps! |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Mar 22, 2022 7:13:56 GMT -8
RB with fuel pump issues, but what was Gasley's issue with his fire. MGU-K failure leaked fluids onto the PU. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Mar 22, 2022 7:14:32 GMT -8
Which then begs the question - did RB start with FULL tanks or did they 'game plan' the amount of fuel on board? Probably the latter, but not having done race sims in testing they didn't have the data the rest did about low fuel levels and it's effects on the part. Wait ... RB did no race sims in 6 days of testing? Do we know that? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2022 7:32:11 GMT -8
Probably the latter, but not having done race sims in testing they didn't have the data the rest did about low fuel levels and it's effects on the part. Wait ... RB did no race sims in 6 days of testing? Do we know that? Facts mean nothing here. |
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Post by Pistola on Mar 22, 2022 8:28:07 GMT -8
I was right! It IS the ethanol attacking the pumps! I can throw a little doubt on that because Le Mans and WEC even NASCAR along with the ALMS have been using ethanol blends for years. Makes me wonder if the final diagnosis will point solely to the pumps. |
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Post by Red_Hercules on Mar 22, 2022 8:35:41 GMT -8
I was right! It IS the ethanol attacking the pumps! I can throw a little doubt on that because Le Mans and WEC along with the ALMS have been using ethanol blends for years. Makes me wonder if the final diagnosis will point solely to the pumps. Thank you. That's my thought too. I just cannot believe that some of the best engineers in the world would not know how to handle an Ethanol blended gasoline. I know how specs are produced because I've been doing it for over 30 years. Are you telling me that Marelli were told to produce a pump, but were not told that the blend was 10% Ethanol? No. I don't buy it one bit. |
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
Jul 12, 2024 22:05:14 GMT -8