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Post by kidrybot on Mar 10, 2022 17:56:02 GMT -8
meh, still.
fuck mercedes
fuck hamilton
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Post by racerman967 on Mar 10, 2022 18:30:36 GMT -8
I want to know how all of these teams can run a design on a wind tunne where they have total control over wind flow and can try anything and a car doesn't porpoise. Yet the secone it hits the track it bounces like it is on a trampoline? That Merc was darn near undivable looking and will have be off the gas so early to sttle the car for turns it will be a send and a half off the pace.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Mar 10, 2022 18:43:18 GMT -8
They run scale models in the wind tunnels and the materials used to construct the models are not identical to the real car so anomalies will happen from time to time.
The porpoising thing is a bit over blown. The engineers will figure out the correct compromises to prevent it soon enough. Right now they still trying to test the limits of it all.
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Post by kidrybot on Mar 10, 2022 18:48:07 GMT -8
I want to know how all of these teams can run a design on a wind tunne where they have total control over wind flow and can try anything and a car doesn't porpoise. Yet the secone it hits the track it bounces like it is on a trampoline? That Merc was darn near undivable looking and will have be off the gas so early to sttle the car for turns it will be a send and a half off the pace. a wind tunnel can't simulate every dynamic ("track derivations"), it's too controlled of an envrionment by COTA every team will have some sort of "skinny side pod" solution, the gap will be bridged andretti-hass will introduce their first car in 23 fuckin dominate |
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Post by Zytes on Mar 11, 2022 1:04:49 GMT -8
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Post by Zytes on Mar 11, 2022 1:13:12 GMT -8
For them without twitter to see above post...Latifi’s car has a fire issue,  |
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Post by mikey on Mar 11, 2022 4:40:46 GMT -8
For them without twitter to see above post...Latifi’s car has a fire issue, I think the fire was a result of hot brakes, duh, but was that the reason he pulled over or was it some other reason? The answer to that question could indicate how their car is really doing as lots of F1 cars brakes catch fire or glow when they are stopped. Glowing while they are driving is really cool to see but probably not a good thing for the drivers unless they have time to cool them off before needing them again. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2022 5:53:17 GMT -8
I want to know how all of these teams can run a design on a wind tunne where they have total control over wind flow and can try anything and a car doesn't porpoise. Yet the secone it hits the track it bounces like it is on a trampoline? That Merc was darn near undivable looking and will have be off the gas so early to sttle the car for turns it will be a send and a half off the pace. It's like the difference between real boobs and silicone boobs. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Mar 11, 2022 6:51:49 GMT -8
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Mar 11, 2022 6:53:43 GMT -8
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Post by jmjgt on Mar 11, 2022 7:15:18 GMT -8
Been looking at a couple of test feeds and both report the Merc is propoising really badly in the afternoon session, lulu is on and off the throttle trying to control it. Neither reported anything about it in the morning but so far the car hasn't been particularly fast or well balanced today.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Mar 11, 2022 7:22:38 GMT -8
IMHO we are not going to know which team truly has the quickest car for a couple of months, at least.
Right now Ferrari looks like it has the most stable package. But we have no idea if it's actually quick. All the other teams are all over the place, trying all sorts of things.
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Post by Zytes on Mar 11, 2022 7:23:36 GMT -8
For them without twitter to see above post...Latifi’s car has a fire issue, I think the fire was a result of hot brakes, duh, but was that the reason he pulled over or was it some other reason? The answer to that question could indicate how their car is really doing as lots of F1 cars brakes catch fire or glow when they are stopped. Glowing while they are driving is really cool to see but probably not a good thing for the drivers unless they have time to cool them off before needing them again. "...With smoke billowing from the back of his Williams, he eventually spun off at the Turn 9/10 double left-hander...." Source: the-race.com/formula-1/fire-rules-williams-out-of-afternoon-f1-test-session/ |
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Post by Zytes on Mar 11, 2022 9:05:32 GMT -8
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Post by Zytes on Mar 11, 2022 9:06:52 GMT -8
Stats and more stats, cuz hey, who don't love stats right...  |
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Post by olderguysrule on Mar 11, 2022 10:06:44 GMT -8
^^ when did haas set that time. motorsport.com and autosport have the red car at the top of the time sheets
I found it. Some of the web sites prolly went home early. :-)
This is interesting. Their design team is x ferrari guys working out of a haas office in Maranello. :-)
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Post by olderguysrule on Mar 11, 2022 10:32:26 GMT -8
Thanx for the link Carlo. Teds notebook or what ever he calls it is a good one. He mentioned 2 or 3 cars that don't look guick. |
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Post by Zytes on Mar 11, 2022 10:51:10 GMT -8
Word on twitter..
Chris Medland
@chrismedlandf1
McLaren announces Daniel Ricciardo has now tested positive for COVID-19. He’ll isolate in line with local guidelines, and should be released in time to race next week #F1"
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Post by pushtopass on Mar 11, 2022 11:27:00 GMT -8
Whoever did those distance calculations got a bit carried away with significant digits!! |
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Post by jmjgt on Mar 11, 2022 12:19:17 GMT -8
I want to know how all of these teams can run a design on a wind tunne where they have total control over wind flow and can try anything and a car doesn't porpoise. Yet the secone it hits the track it bounces like it is on a trampoline? That Merc was darn near undivable looking and will have be off the gas so early to sttle the car for turns it will be a send and a half off the pace. The 60% models are tested in rolling floor tunnels, if they drop the ride height down to where the car would actually run on the track it would damage the rolling belts. The CFD programs are also not sophisticated enough to model the air flow under the car at minimal ride height, they went into this partially blind. |
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