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Post by kidrybot on Dec 5, 2021 21:08:26 GMT -8
I just feel the need to punch someone now
It's inexplicable
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Post by Placid on Dec 5, 2021 21:44:51 GMT -8
Based on the overall results - If an event that both top 2 drivers get taken out each other, it seems that Max will own the tie-breaker for having the most 2nd place finishes and has 1 win more that Lewis (9-8).
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Post by hairyscotsman on Dec 5, 2021 21:53:45 GMT -8
Lweis just whines like nobody I have even heard Yeah, his victim act sure gets tired. NOBODY gets more breaks than Lewis. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Dec 5, 2021 21:56:34 GMT -8
You have to make the corner, Max Max was side to side. Cant count the times the FIA has left this unpunished. Alonso will write a book about it. Yep, and Lewis made zero attempt to get anywhere near the apex. Basically, if the inside car can push the other guy wide enough while keeping his car on track, he gets away with it & the outside guy isn't allowed to pass. And it's complete horseshit. If this is the way it's gonna be, F1 is fucked, as all you'll have to do is run attacking cars right off the track. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Dec 5, 2021 22:12:26 GMT -8
So. Is Lewis steering wheel broken? Why didnt he go around? Seriously. WTF? All the attempts to explain it away by saying "Lewis was confused" just come off as completely ridiculous. If I'm in the faster car racing a guy hard and all of a sudden he slows & moves off the racing line, I do.not.give.a.fuck why he's slowing. I'm fucking blowing past his ass, and it would only take about 0.00000000000000001 second to make that decision. One thing that's 100% certain is that I wouldn't slow down too. Di Resta was just as puzzled by it as I was, and he kept trying to get someone to make sense of it, and of course nobody could. I mean, honestly, what the hell. Whether or not Lewis knew Max was giving the place back was completely irrelevant. You'd have to be a moron to buy that idiotic argument. We've seen literally hundreds of times where guys gave positions back all on their own and nobody ran into them. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Dec 5, 2021 22:31:45 GMT -8
So Max had to give the lead back to Hamilton 3 times and still got a penalty. Yeah I've never seen that one before ... and of course, the first time I see it, it's Lewis who gains from it. Either he gives the position back or there's a penalty. Not both. It was beyond ridiculous. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Dec 5, 2021 23:23:33 GMT -8
So Max had to give the lead back to Hamilton 3 times and still got a penalty. One of those dont count cause Lewis did not get the official sealed letter, so he ran into Max Yep. Max was told to let Lewis by. He tried, and Lewis declined. That's not on Max. Once he did that and Lewis chose not to pass, Max shouldn't have had to give it back, as he'd done what he was supposed to do. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Dec 5, 2021 23:28:51 GMT -8
Hill is sooo apologetic about poor Lewis "didn't know what was going on". He is World Champion dammit... He should know what is going on! Yep. I mean ... when the fuck did anyone in the history of any kind of racing need to "know what was going on" when the guy ahead slowed and moved over? If I thought about it at all (I probably wouldn't) my first thought would probably be that he had a problem, or that he's letting me back in front because he just overtook off the track. Either way, the result would be the same, as I'd blow right on past his unlucky ass and keep moving. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Dec 5, 2021 23:31:30 GMT -8
Max did everything possible to let Lewis win this race.
Obviously odds are Lewis wins the WDC. He's in the fastest car for the 8th straight year, so ... yep. Max is quite literally driving the wheels off that RBR trying to make something happen. It ain't happening. Max could still win the WDC, but it won't be because he has the faster car in Abu Dhabi, imho. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Dec 5, 2021 23:40:52 GMT -8
It is my opinion, and my opinion only that stewarding has gotten WORSE over the years. Going by the letter of the law and sporting regulations, they are "probably" right. I say "probably" because every decision involves SOME subjective judging. ALWAYS. We would not be human if our decisions were not subject to our "subjective judgement". It has become abundantly clear that F1 needs a travelling band of STEWARDS. Maybe, F1 drivers can vote each year on who the "stewards" are going to be. Or they can be selected in some other way. Penalties this year have not been accessed fairly across every driver and every situation. There have been occasions (more than one) where the same infraction has been adjudged differently. It is now a bygone conclusion that the FIA has decided that Mercedes and Hamilton MUST WIN the Championship. Sorry Max, better luck next year. 100%. I started a thread years ago on Autosport, calling for trained, travelling race stewards, who would be reviewed, graded, and evaluated like MLB, NFL, and many other sports refs. That thread rarely gets off of the first page, even after all these years, and I'll be shocked if it's not close to the top when I go back later. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Dec 5, 2021 23:48:34 GMT -8
I just feel the need to punch someone now I have just what you need ...  |
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Post by mikey on Dec 6, 2021 3:39:40 GMT -8
I'll bet it costs and arm and a leg to attend the Saudi Grand Prix.  Who knew that Saudi Arabia would take the Pink Floyd quote so seriously? It also proved that narrow tracks suck and the track designers need to allow a lane for the post and pre hot lap drivers to be in so they aren't always in the way of the current on the hot lap drivers. |
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Post by jfme on Dec 6, 2021 4:20:52 GMT -8
Very quietly the doormat clinches 3rd place in the championship. Are you insinuating Bottas is not the third best driver of the grid?  |
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Post by pushtopass on Dec 6, 2021 5:07:04 GMT -8
Lweis just whines like nobody I have even heard Yeah, his victim act sure gets tired. NOBODY gets more breaks than Lewis. Unlike Marco and Max, who whine all the time. Where was the outrage here when Max walked off the podium celebration? What a child. |
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Post by pushtopass on Dec 6, 2021 5:09:49 GMT -8
Wow. Some real Lewis hatred here. I hope y'all don't have strokes.
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Post by pushtopass on Dec 6, 2021 5:12:11 GMT -8
Max was side to side. Cant count the times the FIA has left this unpunished. Alonso will write a book about it. Yep, and Lewis made zero attempt to get anywhere near the apex. Basically, if the inside car can push the other guy wide enough while keeping his car on track, he gets away with it. And it's complete horseshit. If this is the way it's gonna be, F1 is fucked, as all you'll have to do is run attacking cars right off the track. This is the point I was making in Brazil. Max just pushed Lewis off track while going off track himself and carried on. If that is allowed to happen then it's a problem. But precedence has been set, I guess. |
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Post by snuffmoviestar on Dec 6, 2021 5:36:23 GMT -8
Wow. Some real Lewis hatred here. I hope y'all don't have strokes. Thank you for the well wishes while acknowledging we hate Lewis. In my case it's not personal. It's strictly business.  |
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Post by snuffmoviestar on Dec 6, 2021 5:39:23 GMT -8
Re: the track and the race... Loved it! Pure drama and heaping helpings of bullshit. What happened before our eyes didn't happen and what we missed is all that mattered. Fabulous!
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Post by snuffmoviestar on Dec 6, 2021 5:43:36 GMT -8
Who knew that Saudi Arabia would take the Pink Floyd quote so seriously? It also proved that narrow tracks suck and the track designers need to allow a lane for the post and pre hot lap drivers to be in so they aren't always in the way of the current on the hot lap drivers. I respectfully disagree. The unique nature of this circuit created a storyline and drama that couldn't be made up by Hollywood. It's perfectly dangerous for it's purpose. |
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Post by mmi16 on Dec 6, 2021 5:51:12 GMT -8
If it is paved it is raceable
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA