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Post by mmi16 on Sept 27, 2020 13:27:11 GMT -8
But he never does anything wrong. Didn't you get the memo? I'm not sure what's worse - his crying to the pit wall or his fans crying nonstop about the 'unjust' penalty. To wit:
Hamilton claims FIA trying to stop him with penalty points
Lewis Hamilton claims the FIA is “trying to stop me” by handing him penalty points as he nears a one-race ban after the Russian Grand Prix.
Two separate practice start infringements ahead of the race at Sochi earned Hamilton a five-second time penalty and one penalty point for each, limiting him to third place in the race. More notably, it leaves Hamilton on 10 penalty points for the 12-month period, and with four races where two more would result in him picking up a one-race ban.
“Of course it is (too harsh), and it is to be expected,” Hamilton said. “They are trying to stop me. Don't know that LuLu's transgressions were worthy of penalty points.
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Post by snuffmoviestar on Sept 27, 2020 13:37:40 GMT -8
To wit:
Hamilton claims FIA trying to stop him with penalty points
Lewis Hamilton claims the FIA is “trying to stop me” by handing him penalty points as he nears a one-race ban after the Russian Grand Prix.
Two separate practice start infringements ahead of the race at Sochi earned Hamilton a five-second time penalty and one penalty point for each, limiting him to third place in the race. More notably, it leaves Hamilton on 10 penalty points for the 12-month period, and with four races where two more would result in him picking up a one-race ban.
“Of course it is (too harsh), and it is to be expected,” Hamilton said. “They are trying to stop me. Don't know that LuLu's transgressions were worthy of penalty points. The Stewards changed their decision post race. Ali G wasn't given penalty points.
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Post by hairyscotsman on Sept 27, 2020 13:49:04 GMT -8
Respek. Westside.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Sept 27, 2020 14:08:45 GMT -8
To wit:
Hamilton claims FIA trying to stop him with penalty points
Lewis Hamilton claims the FIA is “trying to stop me” by handing him penalty points as he nears a one-race ban after the Russian Grand Prix.
Two separate practice start infringements ahead of the race at Sochi earned Hamilton a five-second time penalty and one penalty point for each, limiting him to third place in the race. More notably, it leaves Hamilton on 10 penalty points for the 12-month period, and with four races where two more would result in him picking up a one-race ban.
“Of course it is (too harsh), and it is to be expected,” Hamilton said. “They are trying to stop me. Don't know that LuLu's transgressions were worthy of penalty points. Rules is rules.
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Post by overboost on Sept 27, 2020 14:42:33 GMT -8
Hamilton wouldn't say why he decided to do the practice starts in that location. It is a mystery, but still not Hammy's fault. The magnetic flux made him do it.
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Post by mmi16 on Sept 27, 2020 20:48:52 GMT -8
Hamilton wouldn't say why he decided to do the practice starts in that location. It is a mystery, but still not Hammy's fault. The magnetic flux made him do it. I suspect - he saw that his starting position would be on a part of the track that was nor rubbered in. Normal line down the front straight was along the left side of it, his starting spot was on the right side of the front straight. Doing a practice start from the designated pit out spot would tell him nothing about his starting spot as the designated practice start area was rubbered in.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Sept 28, 2020 1:13:00 GMT -8
Hamilton wouldn't say why he decided to do the practice starts in that location. It is a mystery, but still not Hammy's fault. The magnetic flux made him do it. I suspect - he saw that his starting position would be on a part of the track that was nor rubbered in. Normal line down the front straight was along the left side of it, his starting spot was on the right side of the front straight. Doing a practice start from the designated pit out spot would tell him nothing about his starting spot as the designated practice start area was rubbered in. And rules are still rules.
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Post by r60man on Sept 28, 2020 6:44:05 GMT -8
More interesting to me is that the Mercedes, while blistering fast on its own, is crap when back in the field. Lewis had time, and should have been able to get at least back to Bottas. His car was .5 seconds faster than Verstoppen in qualifying, and a full second faster than Perez in the 4th place car on the grid.
If the FIA really wanted to stop him, they would institute inverted starts, then he would never win again.
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Post by pushtopass on Sept 28, 2020 8:28:56 GMT -8
More interesting to me is that the Mercedes, while blistering fast on its own, is crap when back in the field. Lewis had time, and should have been able to get at least back to Bottas. His car was .5 seconds faster than Verstoppen in qualifying, and a full second faster than Perez in the 4th place car on the grid. If the FIA really wanted to stop him, they would institute inverted starts, then he would never win again. He had to preserve tires, though, as he put the hards on quite early. Lewis was something like ten seconds behind Max so it wasn't like he wasn't in clean air, or at least not worse than Bottas as he lapped slower traffic. Bottas did a good job to set fastest lap late.
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Post by jmjgt on Sept 28, 2020 9:05:03 GMT -8
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Post by jfme on Sept 28, 2020 9:30:35 GMT -8
Lulu believes rules dont apply to him
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Post by mmi16 on Sept 28, 2020 9:41:16 GMT -8
Opinions are like assholes - everybody has one.
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Post by hairyscotsman on Sept 28, 2020 10:40:41 GMT -8
More interesting to me is that the Mercedes, while blistering fast on its own, is crap when back in the field. Lewis had time, and should have been able to get at least back to Bottas. His car was .5 seconds faster than Verstoppen in qualifying, and a full second faster than Perez in the 4th place car on the grid. If the FIA really wanted to stop him, they would institute inverted starts, then he would never win again. He had to preserve tires, though, as he put the hards on quite early. Lewis was something like ten seconds behind Max so it wasn't like he wasn't in clean air, or at least not worse than Bottas as he lapped slower traffic. Bottas did a good job to set fastest lap late. Yep. In the past, this is a situation where they would have just turned up the engine mode and let him eat everyone up. Can't do that now, which is good, imho.
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Post by mikey on Sept 28, 2020 13:15:48 GMT -8
He had to preserve tires, though, as he put the hards on quite early. Lewis was something like ten seconds behind Max so it wasn't like he wasn't in clean air, or at least not worse than Bottas as he lapped slower traffic. Bottas did a good job to set fastest lap late. Yep. In the past, this is a situation where they would have just turned up the engine mode and let him eat everyone up. Can't do that now, which is good, imho. I wonder if that means they will have to make their care handle MUCH better in traffic between now and 2022? If they can't just crank it up and drive away from the other cars then they will have to actually fight for positions like everyone else and currently their cars suck at that, not that they do it that often.
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Post by Red_Hercules on Sept 28, 2020 13:51:20 GMT -8
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Post by Pistola on Sept 28, 2020 14:03:42 GMT -8
He had to preserve tires, though, as he put the hards on quite early. Lewis was something like ten seconds behind Max so it wasn't like he wasn't in clean air, or at least not worse than Bottas as he lapped slower traffic. Bottas did a good job to set fastest lap late. Yep. In the past, this is a situation where they would have just turned up the engine mode and let him eat everyone up. Can't do that now, which is good, imho. As long as you lock up the front row traffic is not a problem. Mercedes sets their cars up to do just that. If they knew that they were starting last their setup would be different.
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Post by hairyscotsman on Sept 28, 2020 14:24:37 GMT -8
Yep. In the past, this is a situation where they would have just turned up the engine mode and let him eat everyone up. Can't do that now, which is good, imho. As long as you lock up the front row traffic is not a problem. Mercedes sets their cars up to do just that. If they knew that they were starting last their setup would be different. Yep, for sure they've done exactly that ... but the ban on multiple engine modes during the weekend doesn't allow them to just crank it all the way up during Qualy and then dial it down to "just enough" during the race. They have to pick a setting for all of Saturday & Sunday now. Doesn't change the order, but makes things a little less easy for them, esp when shit goes wrong.
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Post by pushtopass on Sept 28, 2020 15:04:18 GMT -8
As long as you lock up the front row traffic is not a problem. Mercedes sets their cars up to do just that. If they knew that they were starting last their setup would be different. Yep, for sure they've done exactly that ... but the ban on multiple engine modes during the weekend doesn't allow them to just crank it all the way up during Qualy and then dial it down to "just enough" during the race. They have to pick a setting for all of Saturday & Sunday now. Doesn't change the order, but makes things a little less easy for them, esp when shit goes wrong. But the issue here was tires, not engine modes. At least for Lewis. I don't think party mode would have helped on Saturday, either. I've also not been convinced that only Merc had a party mode anyway. I cannot imagine why Ferrari or Renault or Honda would not have the capacity to turn their engines up a bit for a short time. Not having that would indicate that they are maximized all the time, which would be weird.
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Post by mmi16 on Sept 28, 2020 15:21:15 GMT -8
Would anyone have expected the Stewards to come out and say 'Yes we are out to get Lewis Hamilton'?
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Post by mmi16 on Sept 28, 2020 15:26:51 GMT -8
Yep, for sure they've done exactly that ... but the ban on multiple engine modes during the weekend doesn't allow them to just crank it all the way up during Qualy and then dial it down to "just enough" during the race. They have to pick a setting for all of Saturday & Sunday now. Doesn't change the order, but makes things a little less easy for them, esp when shit goes wrong. But the issue here was tires, not engine modes. At least for Lewis. I don't think party mode would have helped on Saturday, either. I've also not been convinced that only Merc had a party mode anyway. I cannot imagine why Ferrari or Renault or Honda would not have the capacity to turn their engines up a bit for a short time. Not having that would indicate that they are maximized all the time, which would be weird. Part of setting up the car is about setting it for what kind of traffic is expected. MB, being a normal front runner makes their set up decisions with the understanding that their cars will be in clean air in the lead. Getting 'trapped' back in the pack the clean air settings aren't as conducive to navigating traffic as other potential settings. The mid-field runners set their cars up for the mid-field contests they expect to be involved in.
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