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Post by racerman967 on Nov 12, 2021 9:35:32 GMT -8
Precisely. Same reason the F1 cars had trouble in the "thin" air of Mexico City. They had to take off from Mexico with LESS fuel than normal because of the max take-off weight issue. So they had to stop and refuel. Somewhere. Otherwise 747s could have made it to Brazil WITHOUT refueling. Even in Albuquerque and Denver you get some fairly long roll outs on take off, and Mexico City is two thousand feet higher. Though keep in mind it's a combination of two things. Engines need oxygen and aerodynamics just need some sort of atmosphere. Planes could fly fine and F1 cars would have great downforce in a fully nitrogen atmosphere as long as the pressure were sufficient, but in neither case will the engines operate. Which is why 2 of Denver's runways are 6 miles long.
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Post by Boomer on Nov 12, 2021 9:55:28 GMT -8
Which is why 2 of Denver's runways are 6 miles long. Added together? According to this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver_International_Airport-------------- Runway 16R/34L, with a length of 16,000 feet (3.03 mi; 4.88 km), is the longest public use runway in North America and the seventh longest in the world.
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Post by kidrybot on Nov 12, 2021 10:38:23 GMT -8
Which is why 2 of Denver's runways are 6 miles long. Added together? According to this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver_International_Airport-------------- Runway 16R/34L, with a length of 16,000 feet (3.03 mi; 4.88 km), is the longest public use runway in North America and the seventh longest in the world. Blucifer concurs
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Post by Pistola on Nov 12, 2021 12:17:56 GMT -8
HamVerBotPer.
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Post by mmi16 on Nov 12, 2021 13:08:59 GMT -8
For the Sprint Race - HAM gets a 5 grid spot penalty for the Sunday race
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Post by snuffmoviestar on Nov 12, 2021 14:05:54 GMT -8
Ham under investigation for tech infringement re: DRS wing opening gap. Only penalty is DQ from quali.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Nov 12, 2021 14:07:31 GMT -8
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Post by olderguysrule on Nov 12, 2021 14:08:49 GMT -8
then there's this www.motorsport.com/f1/news/lewis-hamilton-risks-qualifying-exclusion/6775016/Mercedes driver Hamilton topped Q3 ahead of title rival Max Verstappen at Interlagos, taking first place on the grid for Saturday’s 24-lap sprint race. But in a bulletin sent out by the FIA following qualifying on Friday, technical delegate Jo Bauer revealed there had been an infringement with the DRS on Hamilton’s car
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Post by olderguysrule on Nov 12, 2021 14:09:47 GMT -8
it's prolly gonna be bottax's fault
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Post by snuffmoviestar on Nov 12, 2021 14:12:03 GMT -8
He'd be put to the back of the Sprint Race. Then whatever position he finishes, he gets 5 spot penalty on Sunday. Cheating=Pain.
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Post by snuffmoviestar on Nov 12, 2021 14:14:48 GMT -8
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Post by Pistola on Nov 12, 2021 14:32:47 GMT -8
Supposedly red Bull snitched. No problem, Merc will just take another p/u.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Nov 12, 2021 14:41:56 GMT -8
...No problem, Merc will just take another p/u. I think you are joking but if goes to the back Mercedes probably will give him another new engine. LOL
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Post by Pistola on Nov 12, 2021 15:00:31 GMT -8
...No problem, Merc will just take another p/u. I think you are joking but if goes to the back Mercedes probably will give him another new engine. LOL Only half in jest. They'd have nothing to lose. Technically in order to rectify the problem Mercedes will have to change the setup/wing which should mean a pitlane start on Sunday. Neat sidebar to the issue.
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Post by snuffmoviestar on Nov 12, 2021 15:18:52 GMT -8
Supposedly red Bull snitched. Nope. Top 3 in quali get all the scrutineering tests. So now Lewis really is like Schumacher? Once a cheater, always a cheater. Right British media pundits? (I'm looking at you Matt ciggy Bishop) One other thing. Why isn't Bottles in the same boat. Team screwing him by having the DRS only on Ham's car illegal?
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Post by Pistola on Nov 12, 2021 15:20:16 GMT -8
Pit lane starts>
34.8 A Competitor may not modify any part on the car or make changes to the set-up of the suspension whilst the car is being held under parc fermé conditions. In the case of a breach of this Article the relevant driver must: start the race from the pit lane and follow the procedures laid out in Article 36.2. a) start the sprint qualifying session from the pit lane and follow the procedures prescribed in Article 37.3, if the parc fermé conditions are breached from the start of the qualifying practice session until the car leaves the pit lane for the sprint qualifying session; and/or b) start the race from the pit lane and follow the procedures prescribed in Article 38.2, if the parc fermé conditions are breached from the start of the sprint qualifying session until the car leaves the pit lane for the race.
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Post by overboost on Nov 12, 2021 15:22:00 GMT -8
As we know from Vettel's minor tech infringement of too small a fuel sample post race earlier this year in Hungary which cost him a second place finish, the rules are black and white.
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Post by Pistola on Nov 12, 2021 15:24:45 GMT -8
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Post by snuffmoviestar on Nov 12, 2021 15:28:10 GMT -8
Brilliant!!!!!!!!! I'm now a Max fan.
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Post by overboost on Nov 12, 2021 15:33:52 GMT -8
Max sees everything.
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