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Post by Pistola on Nov 10, 2021 14:39:08 GMT -8
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Post by racerman967 on Nov 10, 2021 15:06:54 GMT -8
Bottas getting ready for Brazil. Lewis's engine for the last 4 races obviously
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Post by jfme on Nov 10, 2021 15:51:00 GMT -8
Bottas getting ready for Brazil. Bottas preparing his next engine change
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Post by Boomer on Nov 10, 2021 16:05:11 GMT -8
Bottas getting ready for Brazil. Lewis's engine for the last 4 races obviously If so, I hope he scratched-up the bearings and clogged the oil passages.
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Post by mmi16 on Nov 10, 2021 17:31:49 GMT -8
Bottas getting ready for Brazil. Thought the current ICE's were V6's - that looks to be an I4 or a bank of a V8.
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Post by Boomer on Nov 10, 2021 17:48:19 GMT -8
Thought the current ICE's were V6's - that looks to be an I4 or a bank of a V8. Right you are! I still am not used to the V-6 'thing' and wasn't paying attention, was I?
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Post by racerman967 on Nov 10, 2021 18:46:49 GMT -8
Bottas getting ready for Brazil. Thought the current ICE's were V6's - that looks to be an I4 or a bank of a V8. Well then Lewis will be WAY down on power
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Post by mikey on Nov 10, 2021 20:17:07 GMT -8
Lewis's engine for the last 4 races obviously If so, I hope he scratched-up the bearings and clogged the oil passages. I can't imagine they actually let him put it in just because of all those possibilities
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Post by Pistola on Nov 11, 2021 8:11:00 GMT -8
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Post by Pistola on Nov 11, 2021 8:13:40 GMT -8
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Post by Pistola on Nov 11, 2021 8:21:17 GMT -8
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Nov 11, 2021 10:23:33 GMT -8
These pansies can't handle the extra race laps.
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Post by hairyscotsman on Nov 11, 2021 12:19:42 GMT -8
Apparently the planes were stuck in Miami for some reason. I wonder what caused the delay?
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Post by Zytes on Nov 11, 2021 12:36:23 GMT -8
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Post by jmjgt on Nov 11, 2021 12:54:43 GMT -8
Apparently the planes were stuck in Miami for some reason. I wonder what caused the delay? i just got a an article from Planet F1 on my phone that said Haas's engines are missing in the delays. Not that that would make their cars any slower.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Nov 11, 2021 14:40:29 GMT -8
^ Post of the week.
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Post by hairyscotsman on Nov 11, 2021 22:13:01 GMT -8
More detailed explanation of the Brazil snafu from an Autosport poster:
"Basically there are 5 chartered 747s for F1 handling the cargo, 2 for whatever reason flew through MIA but got delayed, 3 others flew through central/South American airports (San Jose and Lima) and made it on time. Not sure why 2 of them went through MIA but I do know MIA is a big maintenance hub for a lot of cargo operators, maybe the planes had tech issues.
As for how much less can be loaded onto a 747 in MEX, the cargo itself is the same, it’s just a question of fuel weight/load. They’d adjust the max takeoff weight to suit the air density/runway length etc, and the reduction in fuel carried compared to a cool takeoff from sea level can reduce the plane’s range by a huge amount, maybe up to 30%, certainly enough to require a fuel stop. It’s not just the reduced lift at the same speed, it’s that the engines produce less thrust with thinner air so it takes longer to get up to take off speed."
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Post by Red_Hercules on Nov 12, 2021 6:27:22 GMT -8
More detailed explanation of the Brazil snafu from an Autosport poster: "Basically there are 5 chartered 747s for F1 handling the cargo, 2 for whatever reason flew through MIA but got delayed, 3 others flew through central/South American airports (San Jose and Lima) and made it on time. Not sure why 2 of them went through MIA but I do know MIA is a big maintenance hub for a lot of cargo operators, maybe the planes had tech issues. As for how much less can be loaded onto a 747 in MEX, the cargo itself is the same, it’s just a question of fuel weight/load. They’d adjust the max takeoff weight to suit the air density/runway length etc, and the reduction in fuel carried compared to a cool takeoff from sea level can reduce the plane’s range by a huge amount, maybe up to 30%, certainly enough to require a fuel stop. It’s not just the reduced lift at the same speed, it’s that the engines produce less thrust with thinner air so it takes longer to get up to take off speed." Precisely. Same reason the F1 cars had trouble in the "thin" air of Mexico City. They had to take off from Mexico with LESS fuel than normal because of the max take-off weight issue. So they had to stop and refuel. Somewhere. Otherwise 747s could have made it to Brazil WITHOUT refueling.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Nov 12, 2021 7:56:28 GMT -8
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Post by pushtopass on Nov 12, 2021 8:06:38 GMT -8
More detailed explanation of the Brazil snafu from an Autosport poster: "Basically there are 5 chartered 747s for F1 handling the cargo, 2 for whatever reason flew through MIA but got delayed, 3 others flew through central/South American airports (San Jose and Lima) and made it on time. Not sure why 2 of them went through MIA but I do know MIA is a big maintenance hub for a lot of cargo operators, maybe the planes had tech issues. As for how much less can be loaded onto a 747 in MEX, the cargo itself is the same, it’s just a question of fuel weight/load. They’d adjust the max takeoff weight to suit the air density/runway length etc, and the reduction in fuel carried compared to a cool takeoff from sea level can reduce the plane’s range by a huge amount, maybe up to 30%, certainly enough to require a fuel stop. It’s not just the reduced lift at the same speed, it’s that the engines produce less thrust with thinner air so it takes longer to get up to take off speed." Precisely. Same reason the F1 cars had trouble in the "thin" air of Mexico City. They had to take off from Mexico with LESS fuel than normal because of the max take-off weight issue. So they had to stop and refuel. Somewhere. Otherwise 747s could have made it to Brazil WITHOUT refueling. Even in Albuquerque and Denver you get some fairly long roll outs on take off, and Mexico City is two thousand feet higher. Though keep in mind it's a combination of two things. Engines need oxygen and aerodynamics just need some sort of atmosphere. Planes could fly fine and F1 cars would have great downforce in a fully nitrogen atmosphere as long as the pressure were sufficient, but in neither case will the engines operate.
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