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Post by pushtopass on Jul 18, 2021 10:18:26 GMT -8
Lewis was nowhere near the apex. Of course not; they touched long before the apex. |
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Post by mmi16 on Jul 18, 2021 10:19:51 GMT -8
Lewis was nowhere near the apex. Of course not; they touched long before the apex. His hand position prior to the touch were not headed to the Apex. |
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Post by pushtopass on Jul 18, 2021 10:20:58 GMT -8
Of course not; they touched long before the apex. His hand position prior to the touch were not headed to the Apex. And Max was nowhere near the edge of the track (in other words, he was not space-constrained). |
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Post by racerman967 on Jul 18, 2021 10:31:26 GMT -8
My issue is if you are given a penalty you should serve the penalty withing 2 laps not 19 later. If Lewis come in 2 laps after the restart yes he has 48 laps but he is also 18 seconds behind the first HAAS.
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Post by wayfast on Jul 18, 2021 10:39:17 GMT -8
I'm glad Max posted that. He could not be more right. |
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Post by pushtopass on Jul 18, 2021 10:44:40 GMT -8
My issue is if you are given a penalty you should serve the penalty withing 2 laps not 19 later. If Lewis come in 2 laps after the restart yes he has 48 laps but he is also 18 seconds behind the first HAAS. Yep. The rules in F1 are weird. They should also close the pit lane like they do in NASCAR so someone doesn't get lucky because they happened to be close to the entrance when a SC is announced. The randomness is odd. |
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Post by pushtopass on Jul 18, 2021 10:45:12 GMT -8
I'm glad Max posted that. He could not be more right. to be fair, it was pretty clear that Max was fine by the end of the race. |
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Post by Boomer on Jul 18, 2021 10:49:42 GMT -8
Another 'whitewash' by the stewards.  |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 18, 2021 11:22:40 GMT -8
Look at the images from about 0.2 seconds before when they were nearly dead even. Being even at .2 before doesn't matter. The contact points between the two cars is what matters. Clearly that is what mattered to the stewards as well since Hamilton was penalized. When Lewis was up the inside and even with Leclerc entering the same corner later in the race did he make contact with and punt Leclerc off? No. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 18, 2021 11:25:40 GMT -8
to be fair, it was pretty clear that Max was fine by the end of the race. My god. What kind of sociopath response is this? We have no idea of the long term health consequence hitting that barrier at 150 mph+ will have. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 18, 2021 11:28:28 GMT -8
His hand position prior to the touch were not headed to the Apex. And Max was nowhere near the edge of the track (in other words, he was not space-constrained). The edge of the track is meaningless at that point of the corner. What does matter is Max left more than a car width of space from the apex for Lewis to use. Instead of using that given space Lewis hit Max as per the stewards ruling by choice. |
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Post by pushtopass on Jul 18, 2021 11:29:50 GMT -8
to be fair, it was pretty clear that Max was fine by the end of the race. My god. What kind of sociopath response is this? We have no idea of the long term health consequence hitting that barrier at 150 mph+ will have. Hamilton had asked about Max during the race and was told basically he was out of the car. He did not find out that Max had been taken to the hospital until the press pen. We never know the consequences of such things but should we have no celebrations until ten more years when we are sure that Max is okay? |
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Post by pushtopass on Jul 18, 2021 11:31:00 GMT -8
And Max was nowhere near the edge of the track (in other words, he was not space-constrained). The edge of the track is meaningless at that point of the corner. What does matter is Max left more than a car width of space from the apex for Lewis to use. Instead of using that given space Lewis hit Max as per the stewards ruling by choice. Sure, I get it. But they did not give a harsher penalty because they noted it was not solely Lewis' fault (substantially I believe is the word they used). Have you ever disagreed with the stewards? |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 18, 2021 11:37:23 GMT -8
Sure, I get it. But they did not give a harsher penalty because they noted it was not solely Lewis' fault (substantially I believe is the word they used). Have you ever disagreed with the stewards? Hamilton had asked about Max during the race and was told basically he was out of the car. He did not find out that Max had been taken to the hospital until the press pen. We never know the consequences of such things but should we have no celebrations until ten more years when we are sure that Max is okay? You are a sociopath, bordering on a psychopath. Lewis could have killed Max with his actions. I am done with you. Bye bye. |
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Post by pushtopass on Jul 18, 2021 11:43:46 GMT -8
Sorry, I am in mourning and cannot respond.
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Post by jmjgt on Jul 18, 2021 16:11:25 GMT -8
He sent his title rival to the hospital and is celebrating it. Don't like Hamilton, fine, I don't particularly care for him myself. But this crap about him not really being a great driver is just dumb. That was my point. And I don't for a second believe that any driver purposely punts a rival off the track. The chances of taking yourself out are too great. Really?! Apparently you missed Lulu's spirit animal Senna taking out Prost then blaming it on the head of FISA a year later. |
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Post by r60man on Jul 18, 2021 16:54:25 GMT -8
Once again Lewis come off smelling like a rose because of the red flag. Teams should not be allowed to fix anything during the red flag, only under the yellow, or during a green flag stop. That means Lewis moves to the back of the field which was a much more fitting penalty considering he ended Max's race.
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Post by kidrybot on Jul 18, 2021 17:51:26 GMT -8
Teams should not be allowed to fix anything during the red flag, only under the yellow, or during a green flag stop. That means Lewis moves to the back of the field which was a much more fitting penalty considering he ended Max's race. Jeebus crisps, NASCAR has even had this rule right for decades as far as red flags go. |
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Post by jmjgt on Jul 18, 2021 17:57:46 GMT -8
... when at the opening of the broadcast was a celebration of Prost sticking his nose in that corner against Senna. As if that is any indication as to the legality or wisdom of doing so today ... ...and they both made it through the corner. |
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Post by jmjgt on Jul 18, 2021 18:08:40 GMT -8
Take a look at the line Leclerc was taking at the end of the clip, if Hamilton had taken the same both he and Max would have made the corner. Lulu just misjudged the corner and overcooked it, it would have gone a long way if he had come out and said he screwed up while fighting hard. Now he looks like the "the ends justify the means" prat he was running Nico off the road. |
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