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The Official Austrian Grand Prix Thread Jul 12, 2021 20:03:14 GMT -8 mikey and Red_Hercules like this

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Jul 12, 2021 16:33:59 GMT -8 mikey said:

Jul 12, 2021 11:52:37 GMT -8 mmi16 said:

Real Track Limits must be respected. Painted lines are laughed at.

Unfortunately "real track limits" leads to parades like most of the "walled" and thru the cities tracks, I'm not worried about "real track limits" I'm worried that at each track the rules are different. Pick one...on the red is okay but off them is bad or 4 wheels over the white line is bad anything else is okay.

If there is a limit - the 1st line is the limit - not the last line. A wall is defined by its first line of contact, not the back side.

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The Official Austrian Grand Prix Thread Jul 12, 2021 22:31:06 GMT -8

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Because a driver has the speed and ability to pass a car on the outside, doesn't justify being forced off the track by the one inside. In some cases, but certainly not all, there are corners taken at speed that necessarily carry the car to the outermost verge, and attempting a pass there is not justifiable. But in the case in Austria, Perez could have and should have ceded a car width's space - - both times!

We've seen this behavior in the past with him and a couple others as well. I'm sure that all the drivers know Perez' propensity to force an opponent off when he could have left room.

If drivers respect each other enough to give space when it is possible, some of those 'silly penalties' can be avoided.

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The Official Austrian Grand Prix Thread Jul 13, 2021 5:00:50 GMT -8

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Jul 12, 2021 22:31:06 GMT -8 kingfisher said:

When you create silly conditions you also create silly penalties. Painted line track limits are such a silly condition.

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The Official Austrian Grand Prix Thread Jul 13, 2021 7:29:24 GMT -8 mikey likes this

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There are two turning lanes to the left. There are painted lines indicating where the turning lanes are. Two cars are side-to-side prepared to turn left.

YET,

The car on the outside turning lane (on the right), crosses over during the left turn into the left-most turning lane forcing the car in that lane to STOMP on the brakes to avoid sideswiping or hitting the rear quarter-panel of the right-most car.

What is this?

This happened to me yesterday on a real street, in a real town in the USA.

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kingfisher Full Member Posts: 237	The Official Austrian Grand Prix Thread Jul 13, 2021 22:34:55 GMT -8 Red_Hercules likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by kingfisher on Jul 13, 2021 22:34:55 GMT -8 Jul 13, 2021 7:29:24 GMT -8 Red_Hercules said: What is this? A f**king idiot driver. A more and more common occurrence.

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The Official Austrian Grand Prix Thread Aug 11, 2021 11:22:26 GMT -8 mikey likes this

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Jul 13, 2021 22:34:55 GMT -8 kingfisher said:

Jul 13, 2021 7:29:24 GMT -8 Red_Hercules said:

What is this?

A f**king idiot driver. A more and more common occurrence.

And that is why I have a dashcam in my car now.

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olderguysrule Member Posts: 5,793	The Official Austrian Grand Prix Thread Aug 11, 2021 13:33:27 GMT -8 mikey likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by olderguysrule on Aug 11, 2021 13:33:27 GMT -8 there's a whole series of dash cam videos in Russia on you tube. Prolly the worst drivers and many are drunk. It seems that most everyone in Russia has a dash cam.

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Aug 11, 2021 13:33:27 GMT -8 olderguysrule said:

there's a whole series of dash cam videos in Russia on you tube. Prolly the worst drivers and many are drunk. It seems that most everyone in Russia has a dash cam.

Ivan needs to go back to the ox cart. Motor vehicles are too high speed for their mental aspects of driving. Mazespin is proof!

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Aug 11, 2021 13:33:27 GMT -8 olderguysrule said:

It seems that most everyone in Russia has a dash cam.

They have to as many Russian plates are counterfeits, and they have only had to have compulsory car insurance since 2003, so many still do not.

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The Official Austrian Grand Prix Thread

Post by mmi16 on Jul 12, 2021 20:03:14 GMT -8

Post by kingfisher on Jul 12, 2021 22:31:06 GMT -8

Post by mmi16 on Jul 13, 2021 5:00:50 GMT -8

Post by Red_Hercules on Jul 13, 2021 7:29:24 GMT -8

Post by kingfisher on Jul 13, 2021 22:34:55 GMT -8

Post by Zytes on Aug 11, 2021 11:22:26 GMT -8

Post by olderguysrule on Aug 11, 2021 13:33:27 GMT -8

Post by mmi16 on Aug 11, 2021 20:03:15 GMT -8

Post by Zytes on Aug 12, 2021 5:33:52 GMT -8

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