r60man
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Post by r60man on Jul 6, 2021 6:03:30 GMT -8
And the cause of the bodywork damage? They barely mention that it was the result of Lewis bashing into the curbs. So Lewis was slow because HE broke his car.
This sucking up to Lewis has got to stop.
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Post by jfme on Jul 6, 2021 9:25:36 GMT -8
It's humorous and sad. You get these top drivers trying the outside and when it fails you get the radio "he forced me off". It's like a soccer player taking a dive, King James trying to draw a foul after no contact. They moan about the stewards and yet it's the first card they play. I still look at the Leclerc/Verstappen incident in 2019 exactly the way I did then. Max had the inside and took the line away from Leclerc who had no business going off track except trying to get a penalty. We did not use to have these problems before because F1 drivers were expected to know how to execute a pass. It all started with Lewis dive bombing passes. Something was not acceptable for anyone else in the past. But this shit racing got cheered and then degraded into amateurish crash shows with newer drivers. I dont disagree with current rules. Its just a 5 sec penalty, not a ban or a drive through. A faster driver should be able to recover that time over a race. I prefer it over the previous race ruinning dive bombs, to be honest. Drivers should take their 5 seconds for being stupid and stop bitching. |
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Post by mmi16 on Jul 6, 2021 9:33:33 GMT -8
It's humorous and sad. You get these top drivers trying the outside and when it fails you get the radio "he forced me off". It's like a soccer player taking a dive, King James trying to draw a foul after no contact. They moan about the stewards and yet it's the first card they play. I still look at the Leclerc/Verstappen incident in 2019 exactly the way I did then. Max had the inside and took the line away from Leclerc who had no business going off track except trying to get a penalty. We did not use to have this problems before because F1 drivers were expected to know how to execute a pass. It all started with Lewis dive bombing passes. Something was not acceptable for anyone else in the past. But this shit racing got cheered and then degraded into amateurish crash shows with newer drivers. I dont disagree with current rules. Its just a 5 sec penalty, not a ban or a drive through. A faster driver should be able to recover that time over a race. I prefer it over the previous race ruinning dive bombs, to be honest. Drivers should take their 5 seconds for being stupid and stop bitching. The passer should be awarded the 5 second penalty - you know going into the pass that if you haven't cleared the passee by the apex you are either going to hit the passee or run out of roadway. You can make outside passes on slower (lapped) cars with little difficulty - outside passes on competitive cars are a incident - either contact or running off track guaranteed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2021 10:00:27 GMT -8
It's humorous and sad. You get these top drivers trying the outside and when it fails you get the radio "he forced me off". It's like a soccer player taking a dive, King James trying to draw a foul after no contact. They moan about the stewards and yet it's the first card they play. I still look at the Leclerc/Verstappen incident in 2019 exactly the way I did then. Max had the inside and took the line away from Leclerc who had no business going off track except trying to get a penalty. We did not use to have these problems before because F1 drivers were expected to know how to execute a pass. It all started with Lewis dive bombing passes. Something was not acceptable for anyone else in the past. But this shit racing got cheered and then degraded into amateurish crash shows with newer drivers. I dont disagree with current rules. Its just a 5 sec penalty, not a ban or a drive through. A faster driver should be able to recover that time over a race. I prefer it over the previous race ruinning dive bombs, to be honest. Drivers should take their 5 seconds for being stupid and stop bitching. Waiting on Carlo's input in 3 - 2 - 1- |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 6, 2021 10:46:53 GMT -8
Its just a 5 sec penalty, not a ban or a drive through. A faster driver should be able to recover that time over a race. I prefer it over the previous race ruinning dive bombs, to be honest. Drivers should take their 5 seconds for being stupid and stop bitching. Perfect. Exactly how I feel. The rules are what they are. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 6, 2021 11:05:55 GMT -8
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Post by pushtopass on Jul 6, 2021 15:26:48 GMT -8
So many YouTube videos could be about 90% shorter and retain all the important content! |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 6, 2021 15:41:26 GMT -8
So many YouTube videos could be about 90% shorter and retain all the important content! Agreed. The British love to pontificate. |
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Post by mmi16 on Jul 6, 2021 18:33:58 GMT -8
The current F1 rules are designed to create parades - not races. |
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Post by thirddegree on Jul 7, 2021 7:46:02 GMT -8
Alonso still bagged a point, Max won, Hamilton sucked and the Aston Martin ended up in the gravel. Nature is healing.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 11, 2021 17:38:11 GMT -8
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Post by mmi16 on Jul 11, 2021 18:20:15 GMT -8
Stewards were consistent - consistently wrong! |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 12, 2021 6:04:15 GMT -8
Stewards were consistent - consistently wrong! Sorry, the stewards made the proper judgements based on the RULES. Read the rules. |
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Post by mmi16 on Jul 12, 2021 6:20:23 GMT -8
Stewards were consistent - consistently wrong! Sorry, the stewards made the proper judgements based on the RULES. Read the rules. Sorry - those 'rules' were written by the racing incompetent. Pass on the outside at YOUR OWN RISK, fail and YOU should be penalized. Why weren't Perez and LeClerc penalized for exceeding track limits - if in fact, 'Rules are Rules'. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 12, 2021 8:48:44 GMT -8
Sorry, the stewards made the proper judgements based on the RULES. Read the rules. Sorry - those 'rules' were written by the racing incompetent. Pass on the outside at YOUR OWN RISK, fail and YOU should be penalized. Why weren't Perez and LeClerc penalized for exceeding track limits - if in fact, 'Rules are Rules'. That is your option and has nothing to do with the proper judicator of the the rules as written. Your exceeding track limits diversion is a crock. If someone is forced off track the rules say they can't be penalized for exceeding track limits. Read the rules. |
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Post by mmi16 on Jul 12, 2021 10:40:59 GMT -8
Sorry - those 'rules' were written by the racing incompetent. Pass on the outside at YOUR OWN RISK, fail and YOU should be penalized. Why weren't Perez and LeClerc penalized for exceeding track limits - if in fact, 'Rules are Rules'. That is your option and has nothing to do with the proper judicator of the the rules as written. Your exceeding track limits diversion is a crock. If someone is forced off track the rules say they can't be penalized for exceeding track limits. Read the rules. If there were REAL TRACK LIMITS there would be no questions. There aren't, thus we have these shit shows. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2021 10:50:16 GMT -8
That is your option and has nothing to do with the proper judicator of the the rules as written. Your exceeding track limits diversion is a crock. If someone is forced off track the rules say they can't be penalized for exceeding track limits. Read the rules. If there were REAL TRACK LIMITS there would be no questions. There aren't, thus we have these shit shows. But, but...
LuLu broke his car last week and he cried on the radio. 
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Post by Pistola on Jul 12, 2021 11:03:28 GMT -8
That is your option and has nothing to do with the proper judicator of the the rules as written. Your exceeding track limits diversion is a crock. If someone is forced off track the rules say they can't be penalized for exceeding track limits. Read the rules. If there were REAL TRACK LIMITS there would be no questions. There aren't, thus we have these shit shows. Well boo hoo. |
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Post by mmi16 on Jul 12, 2021 11:52:37 GMT -8
Real Track Limits must be respected. Painted lines are laughed at.
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Post by mikey on Jul 12, 2021 16:33:59 GMT -8
Real Track Limits must be respected. Painted lines are laughed at. Unfortunately "real track limits" leads to parades like most of the "walled" and thru the cities tracks, I'm not worried about "real track limits" I'm worried that at each track the rules are different. Pick one...on the red is okay but off them is bad or 4 wheels over the white line is bad anything else is okay. |
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA