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Post by Carlo_Carrera on May 26, 2021 16:39:51 GMT -8
I also find it funny that whomever balances the tires use foil HVAC tape to double secure the weights. I and other track rats do the same with our track wheels.
F1, not as advanced engineering as you think.
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Post by Pistola on May 26, 2021 16:40:31 GMT -8
The gun IS turning counter clockwise but notice the gold plunger that pops up as the gun slows down? That's the gun automatically switching itself to the forward (tightening) setting. If you go back and look at the original overhead shot you see the mechanic slapping the back of the gun every time he pulls it away, that him pushing the plunger down to the un-tightening setting. Those setting only work one way, Nut off/nut on. The only thing i can think of is that they mixed up the opposite side's gun, if you look at the video i posted the wheel changer said he always had his spare gun at his side, yet they actually went back to the garage to get the other gun after the first attempt failed. Why is that? was there an equipment failure on lulu's stop that caused a mix up? That gun has RF2 printed on it. What happened to gun RF1? That's what makes me think this video was the last futile attempt to get the nut off not the first one maybe using a different gun. Looking at the broadcast video RF1 is the first gun they used. RF2 is on the ground just behind the fellow with the new tire and is the one they switched to at the end. It wouldn't matter which way RF2 turned the damage was already done. I'm also unknowing about how the rotation of a gun that can turn some 9k will appear at the frame rate F1 cameras work at. |
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Post by boomer on May 26, 2021 21:47:06 GMT -8
9K RPM is 150 revs/sec. "Some cameras can go as fast as 1,000 frames per second." - from 'the cloud' (somewhere over utah).  |
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Post by mmi16 on May 27, 2021 3:03:35 GMT -8
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Post by wilmywood8455 on May 27, 2021 3:13:40 GMT -8
9K RPM is 150 revs/sec. "Some cameras can go as fast as 1,000 frames per second." - from 'the cloud' (somewhere over utah). Yes, some cameras can go as fast as 1,000 frames per second, but there are much faster cameras than 1,000 fps |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on May 27, 2021 4:54:37 GMT -8
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Post by mmi16 on May 27, 2021 6:06:24 GMT -8
And the Titanic is still sailing the seas. So only the RF was 'out of position' on VB's stop and thus the gun got the angle wrong. BS BS BS |
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Post by Red_Hercules on May 27, 2021 6:33:05 GMT -8
Just an observation:
Never has so much ink been spilled about a "wheel nut gun" and a busted F1 tire pit stop.
I guess, failure requires many reams of paper to explain.
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Post by Pistola on May 27, 2021 6:47:46 GMT -8
9K RPM is 150 revs/sec. "Some cameras can go as fast as 1,000 frames per second." - from 'the cloud' (somewhere over utah). Does that explain why wheels sometimes appear to be going backwards? The wagon wheel effect. From what I have heard the broadcast is at about 50 fps. |
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Post by jmjgt on May 27, 2021 7:24:07 GMT -8
And the Titanic is still sailing the seas. So only the RF was 'out of position' on VB's stop and thus the gun got the angle wrong. BS BS BS It's been 4 days, where are the pictures of the damaged nut? You'd think they'd be on the tweets by now. |
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Post by Pistola on May 27, 2021 7:29:17 GMT -8
And the Titanic is still sailing the seas. So only the RF was 'out of position' on VB's stop and thus the gun got the angle wrong. BS BS BS It's been 4 days, where are the pictures of the damaged nut? You'd think they'd be on the tweets by now. It's complicated. |
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Post by Pistola on May 27, 2021 7:31:58 GMT -8
It's magic. Notice the threading.
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Post by jmjgt on May 27, 2021 8:11:42 GMT -8
I'm still skeptical about the gun at the wrong angle thing, looks to me like he was grinding away something jamming the nut that kept it from moving when the gun hit it. Could be the clip that holds it to the wheel broke and jammed itself in there.  |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on May 27, 2021 8:19:52 GMT -8
It's magic. Notice the threading. So what Wilmy saw was correct. The gun was going counterclockwise. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 8:21:13 GMT -8
It's magic. Notice the threading. So what Wilmy saw was correct. The gun was going counterclockwise. Wilmy has been around the block once or twice. |
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Post by Pistola on May 27, 2021 8:24:00 GMT -8
I was thinking along the lines that he was cleaning up some smeared over aluminum so that a different tool could fit into what remained of the slots. Why they couldn't do any similar fix at the track is mysterious. Maybe they practice pit stops enough at the factory that it happens and the procedure and tools are right there.
Doesn't look like there was any thread galling involved.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on May 27, 2021 8:42:13 GMT -8
It's magic. Notice the threading. So what Wilmy saw was correct. The gun was going counterclockwise. Yeah, but it blows the LH thread theory, which is odd. Here's a video showing Jon Beekhuis with a Dallara wheel nut. It's a RH thread nut on the left rear of an IndyCar.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on May 27, 2021 9:06:56 GMT -8
In this video Martin Brundle discusses F1 wheel nuts and at 1:05 or so he tightens a RF nut on a Williams and it is LHed.
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Post by pushtopass on May 27, 2021 10:39:44 GMT -8
I'm not kidding. I remember Hamilton's father threatening to pull his son out of Formula One his first season after his first Monaco race with McLaren. Bottas needs somebody to stir up some shit for him. Where's the British media to leap to his defense? Now laugh Carlo.  One would think that a team member would own up to making a mistake, screwing over Mercedes and Bottas. |
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Post by Placid on May 27, 2021 10:55:16 GMT -8
It's magic. Notice the threading. That is nasty!!!!! |
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA