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Post by mikey on Apr 7, 2021 19:05:43 GMT -8
But Hamilton 29X off track! And that's my question did Lewis going off track that many time extend the time it took Max to catch him and deprive both Red Bull of a possible win and us viewers of a closer race than it actually was. |
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Post by mmi16 on Apr 7, 2021 19:41:50 GMT -8
But Hamilton 29X off track! And that's my question did Lewis going off track that many time extend the time it took Max to catch him and deprive both Red Bull of a possible win and us viewers of a closer race than it actually was. Maybe if the 'painted lines' were always 'Wet Paint' and the slipperiness that would give to traction - while also demonstrating irrefutable EVIDENCE. Off Course is not 4 wheels - it is 2 wheels, the inside or outside wheels as the situation warrants. |
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Post by jmjgt on Apr 7, 2021 19:57:30 GMT -8
But Hamilton 29X off track! And that's my question did Lewis going off track that many time extend the time it took Max to catch him and deprive both Red Bull of a possible win and us viewers of a closer race than it actually was. I lulu gained .10 of a sec every time he went off he gained a 2.9 sec "lasting advantage" over the race distance, if he was able to save his left front tire a bit by taking a wider arc he gained a "lasting advantage". The race absolutely should have been closer. |
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Post by r60man on Apr 8, 2021 3:54:25 GMT -8
And that's my question did Lewis going off track that many time extend the time it took Max to catch him and deprive both Red Bull of a possible win and us viewers of a closer race than it actually was. I lulu gained .10 of a sec every time he went off he gained a 2.9 sec "lasting advantage" over the race distance, if he was able to save his left front tire a bit by taking a wider arc he gained a "lasting advantage". The race absolutely should have been closer. The main point being that Lewis absolutely gained an advantage by violating track limits. The biggest indicator of this was Max feeling that he had to give the place back after he passed Lewis, because he violated track limits! Max knew that was wrong. Why didn't Lewis? I think he did, but did it anyway. |
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Apr 8, 2021 4:16:38 GMT -8
I lulu gained .10 of a sec every time he went off he gained a 2.9 sec "lasting advantage" over the race distance, if he was able to save his left front tire a bit by taking a wider arc he gained a "lasting advantage". The race absolutely should have been closer. The main point being that Lewis absolutely gained an advantage by violating track limits. The biggest indicator of this was Max feeling that he had to give the place back after he passed Lewis, because he violated track limits! Max knew that was wrong. Why didn't Lewis? I think he did, but did it anyway. This ESPN article explains the situation: |
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Post by mmi16 on Apr 8, 2021 5:21:36 GMT -8
The main point being that Lewis absolutely gained an advantage by violating track limits. The biggest indicator of this was Max feeling that he had to give the place back after he passed Lewis, because he violated track limits! Max knew that was wrong. Why didn't Lewis? I think he did, but did it anyway. This ESPN article explains the situation: The 'clarity' of track limits is that BAD THINGS happen to the car/driver when the limits are exceeded, the BAD THINGS do not include Stewards decisions. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 7:42:55 GMT -8
The main point being that Lewis absolutely gained an advantage by violating track limits. The biggest indicator of this was Max feeling that he had to give the place back after he passed Lewis, because he violated track limits! Max knew that was wrong. Why didn't Lewis? I think he did, but did it anyway. This ESPN article explains the situation: What a bunch of ass-covering horseshit. |
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Post by Codfish on Apr 8, 2021 8:40:17 GMT -8
From Article 27.3: ""Drivers must make every reasonable effort to use the track at all times and may not deliberately leave the track without a justifiable reason..."
What was Hamilton's "justifiable reason" for leaving the track 29 times...? The optics of this are horrible... Just sayin'...
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Apr 8, 2021 9:29:38 GMT -8
From Article 27.3: ""Drivers must make every reasonable effort to use the track at all times and may not deliberately leave the track without a justifiable reason..." What was Hamilton's "justifiable reason" for leaving the track 29 times...? The optics of this are horrible... Just sayin'... His 'justifiable reason' is that they told them they would not penalize for exceeding limits at turn 4 during the race. |
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Post by mmi16 on Apr 8, 2021 9:41:06 GMT -8
From Article 27.3: ""Drivers must make every reasonable effort to use the track at all times and may not deliberately leave the track without a justifiable reason..." What was Hamilton's "justifiable reason" for leaving the track 29 times...? The optics of this are horrible... Just sayin'... Painted lines are not track limits - they are track suggestions. |
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Post by Codfish on Apr 8, 2021 10:15:08 GMT -8
Painted lines are not track limits - they are track suggestions. Here on "The Sandbar" we call them "fog lines"... Doesn't matter - as I said the optics are horrible and they need to fix this silliness... |
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Post by jmjgt on Apr 8, 2021 11:05:49 GMT -8
From Article 27.3: ""Drivers must make every reasonable effort to use the track at all times and may not deliberately leave the track without a justifiable reason..." What was Hamilton's "justifiable reason" for leaving the track 29 times...? The optics of this are horrible... Just sayin'... His 'justifiable reason' is that they told them they would not penalize for exceeding limits at turn 4 during the race. That's fine, but why "remind" Merc about the track limits mid race if lulu wasn't doing anything wrong? That's the point a lot of people are confused over. |
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Post by Codfish on Apr 8, 2021 11:23:09 GMT -8
His 'justifiable reason' is that they told them they would not penalize for exceeding limits at turn 4 during the race. That's fine, but why "remind" Merc about the track limits mid race if lulu wasn't doing anything wrong? That's the point a lot of people are confused over. And Michael Masi's explanation regarding that was far from satisfactory... I got a headache trying to follow his reasoning...  |
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Apr 8, 2021 12:16:36 GMT -8
His 'justifiable reason' is that they told them they would not penalize for exceeding limits at turn 4 during the race. That's fine, but why "remind" Merc about the track limits mid race if lulu wasn't doing anything wrong? That's the point a lot of people are confused over. Including the stewards/race director. |
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Apr 8, 2021 12:17:09 GMT -8
That's fine, but why "remind" Merc about the track limits mid race if lulu wasn't doing anything wrong? That's the point a lot of people are confused over. And Michael Masi's explanation regarding that was far from satisfactory... I got a headache trying to follow his reasoning... That's because it was not reasonable or logical. |
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Post by snuffmoviestar on Apr 8, 2021 12:36:50 GMT -8
From Article 27.3: ""Drivers must make every reasonable effort to use the track at all times and may not deliberately leave the track without a justifiable reason..." What was Hamilton's "justifiable reason" for leaving the track 29 times...? The optics of this are horrible... Just sayin'... His 'justifiable reason' is that they told them they would not penalize for exceeding limits at turn 4 during the race. If I were he, I'd have done the same thing until I was stopped. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Apr 8, 2021 12:41:39 GMT -8
His 'justifiable reason' is that they told them they would not penalize for exceeding limits at turn 4 during the race. If I were he, I'd have done the same thing until I was stopped. Yes. |
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Apr 8, 2021 12:45:34 GMT -8
If I were he, I'd have done the same thing until I was stopped. Yes. Absolutely. |
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Post by jmjgt on Apr 8, 2021 13:11:46 GMT -8
Same here, and just like lulu i would have question why it was a problem all of a sudden. but then again Domenicali has put his foot down on drivers voicing decent. |
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Post by mmi16 on Apr 8, 2021 18:33:34 GMT -8
When the track itself enforces its limits - they are not open to question or interpretation.
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
Jul 12, 2024 22:05:14 GMT -8
Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
Jul 12, 2024 22:05:14 GMT -8