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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Mar 23, 2021 12:35:21 GMT -8
Amazing read, thanks.
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Post by hairyscotsman on Mar 23, 2021 15:11:19 GMT -8
Ocon under pressure? He should be.
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Post by Pistola on Mar 25, 2021 7:40:28 GMT -8
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Mar 25, 2021 7:49:18 GMT -8
Zack Brown also says he wouldn’t hire Hamilton if he was available. That absolutely makes no sense.
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Post by jmjgt on Mar 25, 2021 8:14:30 GMT -8
Speculation predicated on the status quo remaining the same after the 2022 reg change, I wouldn't take that bet.
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Post by olderguysrule on Mar 25, 2021 8:41:03 GMT -8
Speculation predicated on the status quo remaining the same after the 2022 reg change, I wouldn't take that bet. I would take that bet. Once 2022 starts the engines will be frozen. With no balance of performance like Max imposed in 2007 or whenever. Renault and Ferrari won't catch up on that front this year. Which means they'll be behind the 8 ball till 2025 or whenever the new regulations take effect. Honda could catch up but that remains to be seen. The aero regulations change. 18 inch wheels. Ground effects. Merc has all the best engineers except Newey. I don't see merc losing their advantage on the aero side. Like I said a few days back, the only question about 2022 will be how many 10ths faster will the mercs be.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Mar 25, 2021 9:23:47 GMT -8
Speculation predicated on the status quo remaining the same after the 2022 reg change, I wouldn't take that bet. I would take that bet. Once 2022 starts the engines will be frozen. With no balance of performance like Max imposed in 2007 or whenever. Renault and Ferrari won't catch up on that front this year. Which means they'll be behind the 8 ball till 2025 or whenever the new regulations take effect. Honda could catch up but that remains to be seen. The aero regulations change. 18 inch wheels. Ground effects. Merc has all the best engineers except Newey. I don't see merc losing their advantage on the aero side. Like I said a few days back, the only question about 2022 will be how many 10ths faster will the mercs be. With the incoming budget cap many of Mercedes' engineers will be moving to other teams. Some of them have already gone to Aston Martin. Some Ferrari guys have gone to Alfa Romeo, etc...
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Post by pushtopass on Mar 25, 2021 11:48:28 GMT -8
Zack Brown also says he wouldn’t hire Hamilton if he was available. That absolutely makes no sense. Weird; I think it makes perfect sense. He is old, would be expensive and is unfamiliar with the car. Is he that much faster than Danny Ric and Norris?
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Mar 25, 2021 11:54:52 GMT -8
Zack Brown also says he wouldn’t hire Hamilton if he was available. That absolutely makes no sense. Weird; I think it makes perfect sense. He is old, would be expensive and is unfamiliar with the car. Is he that much faster than Danny Ric and Norris? Hamilton's cost is easily offset by the prestige and sponsorship he would bring McLaren, both of which they desperately need. They might even land a title sponsor. Ricciardo is a keeper, Norris is nothing special. A Danny/Lewis driver combo would be fantastic in every way.
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Post by jmjgt on Mar 25, 2021 12:34:52 GMT -8
Speculation predicated on the status quo remaining the same after the 2022 reg change, I wouldn't take that bet. I would take that bet. Once 2022 starts the engines will be frozen. With no balance of performance like Max imposed in 2007 or whenever. Renault and Ferrari won't catch up on that front this year. Which means they'll be behind the 8 ball till 2025 or whenever the new regulations take effect. Honda could catch up but that remains to be seen. The aero regulations change. 18 inch wheels. Ground effects. Merc has all the best engineers except Newey. I don't see merc losing their advantage on the aero side. Like I said a few days back, the only question about 2022 will be how many 10ths faster will the mercs be. The new aero regs start next year, they were supposed have been in effect from this year but ...corona. Those cars are mostly already done and no one knows who came up with what, so we could very well see another Brawn/super diffuser situation since we're dealing with a whole new aero concept instead of an evolution of a current one. I can't see a top team breaking the continuity chain by starting a new era with 2 new drivers, maybe one, but not 2.
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Post by Pistola on Apr 13, 2021 8:37:24 GMT -8
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Post by jmjgt on Apr 13, 2021 20:06:54 GMT -8
^ Wasn't there this clause thing about RB being an average .4 sec a lap slower than Merc or Honda pulling out for Max to get released before 2023? Or did these wags just forget all of that? My crystal ball says Merc dumps Bobot, moves Russel up to #2 and keeps lulu around for a couple of years until the post 2022 car pecking order establishes itself.
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Post by Pistola on Apr 13, 2021 20:50:16 GMT -8
They're journos, they drink, they fall down, they say things, they're just like us.
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Post by jmjgt on May 4, 2021 10:03:02 GMT -8
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Post by Sabrina81 on May 4, 2021 10:19:27 GMT -8
Weird; I think it makes perfect sense. He is old, would be expensive and is unfamiliar with the car. Is he that much faster than Danny Ric and Norris? Hamilton's cost is easily offset by the prestige and sponsorship he would bring McLaren, both of which they desperately need. They might even land a title sponsor. Ricciardo is a keeper, Norris is nothing special. A Danny/Lewis driver combo would be fantastic in every way. But what about the $100 million dollar fines? Lando is awesome and 3rd in points.
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Post by pushtopass on May 4, 2021 10:25:28 GMT -8
I dismissed that as BritPress but who knows. As the commentators said during the broadcast last weekend, what would Merc gain by having Russell in the seat right now?
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Post by Sabrina81 on May 4, 2021 11:27:12 GMT -8
I dismissed that as BritPress but who knows. As the commentators said during the broadcast last weekend, what would Merc gain by having Russell in the seat right now? Points a competitive championship. The BEST DOG EVER.
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Post by boiler on May 4, 2021 18:06:00 GMT -8
I dismissed that as BritPress but who knows. As the commentators said during the broadcast last weekend, what would Merc gain by having Russell in the seat right now? I said this last month, if the championship is close Bottas is either on vacation for the rest of the season or in the Williams. Redbull has two guys that can score points consistently no way in hell they let him stay in the car if the championship is close with ~5 races left and he continues to perform like a has been, I mean like he has been......
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Post by mikey on May 4, 2021 18:50:25 GMT -8
I dismissed that as BritPress but who knows. As the commentators said during the broadcast last weekend, what would Merc gain by having Russell in the seat right now? I said this last month, if the championship is close Bottas is either on vacation for the rest of the season or in the Williams. Redbull has two guys that can score points consistently no way in hell they let him stay in the car if the championship is close with ~5 races left and he continues to perform like a has been, I mean like he has been...... After Lulu was sooo much faster than Bottas in Portugal you can bet he will be using the same wing Lulu chooses from now on, now beyond that Lulu has skills that Bottas obviously does not and the killer instinct that even Rosberg said was hard to overcome when he won his own WDC.
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Post by kingfisher on May 4, 2021 21:48:46 GMT -8
As the commentators said during the broadcast last weekend, what would Merc gain by having Russell in the seat right now? Given his performance at Sakhir in a Merc, I would imagine Toto is thinking more like Horner in that it would be wise to consider a better pairing that will (hopefully) ensure maximum points haul for the team as well as putting him up against their #1 and prove their mettle and worth. Bottas is a known commodity, whereas Russell demonstrated his ability impressively in an unknown car. Red Bull has a strong pairing and as Bottas seems to falter, all the incentive necessary as the season's unfolding into an all-out title fight between those two teams. And as Lewis ages, a talented young driver with his future ahead of him at a team like Mercedes would be a valuable asset to them.
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