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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Aug 30, 2020 13:16:50 GMT -8
It amazes me that Bottas still believes he is free to race Hamilton.
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Post by jmjgt on Aug 30, 2020 13:27:06 GMT -8
It amazes me that Bottas still believes he is free to race Hamilton. i think it's finally set in, his attitude and body language has changed dramatically since Silverstone pt2. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Aug 30, 2020 13:47:17 GMT -8
It amazes me that Bottas still believes he is free to race Hamilton. i think it's finally set in, his attitude and body language has changed dramatically since Silverstone pt2. Slow learner. |
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Post by montybriscoe on Aug 30, 2020 13:52:35 GMT -8
Where does Bottas rank all-time versus other lap dogs in F1 such as Barrichello and Irvine?
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Post by mikey on Aug 30, 2020 14:06:54 GMT -8
It amazes me that Bottas still believes he is free to race Hamilton. My question was when I heard them say that was 'will they say the same thing to Lulu if the roles are reversed and will he obey or be ordered to obey'? If Lulu 'goes for it anyway' then I hope Bottas will say the war is on and we get a season of racing yet!!! |
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Post by mmi16 on Aug 30, 2020 14:59:57 GMT -8
So we won't have variable engine mapping at Monza. What map will MB choose - they have multiples, as we know, to choose from. Do the others really have multiple maps? Without knowing who was doing what - Verstappen was the only one that could stay in the MB Zip Code at Spa and that was just in the Zip Code - not on the same street, let alone the same block. Suspect he will be the only one in the same Zip Code at Monza. Lewis will have the No1 driver map, Bottas will have the No2 driver map. It's that simple. Bottas will be in the same block - not the same street and not next door to Lewis. |
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Post by mmi16 on Aug 30, 2020 15:00:32 GMT -8
It amazes me that Bottas still believes he is free to race Hamilton. Just liker Rubens was free to race Michael. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Aug 30, 2020 15:29:41 GMT -8
Where does Bottas rank all-time versus other lap dogs in F1 such as Barrichello and Irvine? I would rank Barrichello and Irvine higher. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Aug 30, 2020 15:31:42 GMT -8
It amazes me that Bottas still believes he is free to race Hamilton. My question was when I heard them say that was 'will they say the same thing to Lulu if the roles are reversed and will he obey or be ordered to obey'? If Lulu 'goes for it anyway' then I hope Bottas will say the war is on and we get a season of racing yet!!! Not a chance, Bottas is not capable of racing Hamilton head to head. The season is over and has been over for awhile now. The second Silverstone was tire fluke. |
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Post by montybriscoe on Aug 30, 2020 16:12:03 GMT -8
Where does Bottas rank all-time versus other lap dogs in F1 such as Barrichello and Irvine? I would rank Barrichello and Irvine higher. I would say, imo, that Bottas and Barrichello have been pretty even with one other. One could argue either one was better than the other. I would definitely rank them both above Irvine. Irvine, save for 1999 when Schumacher was sidelined with a broken leg, definitely performed as the #2 at Ferrari. The performance gap between MS and Irvine was quite a bit bigger than it was between MS and Barrichello. The 1996 season proved that for me. |
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Post by Codfish on Aug 30, 2020 16:30:06 GMT -8
Mariafan will be along to check your work later. Fail.
Go stand in the corner, young man, and think about what you've done.
I thought we settled all this back in 2000 when everyone learned the millennium actually turned in 2001...  |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Aug 30, 2020 16:45:10 GMT -8
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Post by r60man on Aug 30, 2020 16:51:33 GMT -8
He is correct. 1992 would be the second race, but the first anniversary. Ummmmm....my parents were married in 1962 and celebrated their 50th anniversary in 2012. How is that any different? Your logic says that 2012 should have been their 49th. Could it be that 1991 didn't count because he did not complete a lap in the race? His clutch failed after Eu Rouge on lap 1. |
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Post by racerman967 on Aug 30, 2020 16:52:35 GMT -8
Sainz is this generations Alesi, picking the wrong team at the wrong time and leaving teams that are on the upswing just before they take the next big step.
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Post by mikey on Aug 30, 2020 16:56:55 GMT -8
My question was when I heard them say that was 'will they say the same thing to Lulu if the roles are reversed and will he obey or be ordered to obey'? If Lulu 'goes for it anyway' then I hope Bottas will say the war is on and we get a season of racing yet!!! Not a chance, Bottas is not capable of racing Hamilton head to head. The season is over and has been over for awhile now. The second Silverstone was tire fluke. I totally agree but Bottas thinks he can race him, personally I think Bottas doesn't take into account that Lulu was not running full speed when Bottas wanted to get racey and once both cars get racey Lulu is a better driver, Bottas is good but not THAT good. Personally I also think if he stays behind Lulu he can build his rep as an exxcellent #2 guy who can win when needed but can follow and block too. Alot like Massa and Rubens did and then proved it once they were equal with their teammates. |
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Post by montybriscoe on Aug 30, 2020 17:14:29 GMT -8
Ummmmm....my parents were married in 1962 and celebrated their 50th anniversary in 2012. How is that any different? Your logic says that 2012 should have been their 49th. Could it be that 1991 didn't count because he did not complete a lap in the race? His clutch failed after Eu Rouge on lap 1. He started 7th but retired on the opening lap after frying his clutch. His car was on the grid and he started the race. Therefore it was his first F1 start. His race was classified as a DNF, not a DNS. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Aug 30, 2020 17:25:33 GMT -8
Not a chance, Bottas is not capable of racing Hamilton head to head. The season is over and has been over for awhile now. The second Silverstone was tire fluke. I totally agree but Bottas thinks he can race him, personally I think Bottas doesn't take into account that Lulu was not running full speed when Bottas wanted to get racey and once both cars get racey Lulu is a better driver, Bottas is good but not THAT good. Personally I also think if he stays behind Lulu he can build his rep as an exxcellent #2 guy who can win when needed but can follow and block too. Alot like Massa and Rubens did and then proved it once they were equal with their teammates. Bottas has already proven his worth, which is not a lot. Nobody needs a solid number 2 driver. There are plenty of them available right now. |
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Post by montybriscoe on Aug 30, 2020 17:29:53 GMT -8
Fail.
Go stand in the corner, young man, and think about what you've done.
I thought we settled all this back in 2000 when everyone learned the millennium actually turned in 2001... Centuries and anniversaries/birthdays are not the same thing. First year of new century always ends with a 1, not a zero (2000 was last year of 20th century and 2001 was first year of 21st century).😛 |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Aug 30, 2020 17:36:05 GMT -8
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Post by Codfish on Aug 30, 2020 17:55:42 GMT -8
Centuries and anniversaries/birthdays are not the same thing. First year of new century always ends with a 1, not a zero (2000 was last year of 20th century and 2001 was first year of 21st century).😛 Yeah I know, I was just joking Monte - probably should have made that clearer... |
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