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Post by wilmywood8455 on Jul 6, 2020 4:53:39 GMT -8
best line of the weekend. albon on the radio after lulu punts him off. "This guy is such a sore loser" FIA must frown on saying 'asshole' |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 6, 2020 5:23:03 GMT -8
I understand, so a racer goes to make a clean pass on someone and the driver being passed defends by driving right into him/her and the person making the pass is then at fault? Good god what a joke. Basic racecraft - Albon made a move of low probability and probability caught him - rookie mistake. Albon had fresh softs vs Hamiltons worn hards, hew would also have DRS in his favor. Every pass is a calculated risk. Albon's calculations were wrong. Albon didn't have any problem going beyond the white line on the entry to the corner, why should he have any problem going beyond the white line on the exit? Nice try, but you didn't answer the question. |
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Post by olderguysrule on Jul 6, 2020 6:24:05 GMT -8
Basic racecraft - Albon made a move of low probability and probability caught him - rookie mistake. Albon had fresh softs vs Hamiltons worn hards, hew would also have DRS in his favor. Every pass is a calculated risk. Albon's calculations were wrong. Albon didn't have any problem going beyond the white line on the entry to the corner, why should he have any problem going beyond the white line on the exit? Nice try, but you didn't answer the question. ya know Carlo, lulu got beat into the corner. when albon got ahead, there was enough room for him to pass. then lulu didn't lift or turn a bit harder, so he drifted into albon. Others can talk about this till the cows come home for dinner but it doesn't change the facts. lulu got beat and instead of letting it go, he ruined albons race. lulu was second and finished 4th. albon would have finished 2nd but finished 13th. lulu got off easy with the 5 second penalty. |
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Post by mmi16 on Jul 6, 2020 8:18:07 GMT -8
Basic racecraft - Albon made a move of low probability and probability caught him - rookie mistake. Albon had fresh softs vs Hamiltons worn hards, hew would also have DRS in his favor. Every pass is a calculated risk. Albon's calculations were wrong. Albon didn't have any problem going beyond the white line on the entry to the corner, why should he have any problem going beyond the white line on the exit? Nice try, but you didn't answer the question. The passer that expects the passee to act like a Williams getting lapped for the 3rd time has only himself to blame for a bad outcome. Know who you are dealing with. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 6, 2020 8:33:37 GMT -8
Nice try, but you didn't answer the question. The passer that expects the passee to act like a Williams getting lapped for the 3rd time has only himself to blame for a bad outcome. Know who you are dealing with. That is still not answering the question; so a racer goes to make a clean pass on someone and the driver being passed defends by driving right into him/her and the person making the pass is then at fault? Is that what you saying? |
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Post by mmi16 on Jul 6, 2020 9:15:03 GMT -8
The passer that expects the passee to act like a Williams getting lapped for the 3rd time has only himself to blame for a bad outcome. Know who you are dealing with. That is still not answering the question; so a racer goes to make a clean pass on someone and the driver being passed defends by driving right into him/her and the person making the pass is then at fault? Is that what you saying? What I am say is Albon was beyond dumb. |
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Post by wayfast on Jul 6, 2020 9:31:18 GMT -8
I don't see what all the fuss is about. Louie was clearly in the wrong and took out Albon. Albon used the track and did a nice outside pass but louie couldn't or wouldn't hold his line. Only complaint from me is the penalty wasn't harsh enough. Louie ruins Albon race and get his hand slapped. A drive through or 30 second penalty would be more appropriate. I doubt other drivers would have gotten just a 5 second penalty for the same move.
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Post by mmi16 on Jul 6, 2020 10:11:08 GMT -8
I don't see what all the fuss is about. Louie was clearly in the wrong and took out Albon. Albon used the track and did a nice outside pass but louie couldn't or wouldn't hold his line. Only complaint from me is the penalty wasn't harsh enough. Louie ruins Albon race and get his hand slapped. A drive through or 30 second penalty would be more appropriate. I doubt other drivers would have gotten just a 5 second penalty for the same move. You learn to race people how they race you - Albon didn't learn anything from Brazil 2019. Dumb! |
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Post by olderguysrule on Jul 6, 2020 10:33:07 GMT -8
I don't see what all the fuss is about. Louie was clearly in the wrong and took out Albon. Albon used the track and did a nice outside pass but louie couldn't or wouldn't hold his line. Only complaint from me is the penalty wasn't harsh enough. Louie ruins Albon race and get his hand slapped. A drive through or 30 second penalty would be more appropriate. I doubt other drivers would have gotten just a 5 second penalty for the same move. You learn to race people how they race you - Albon didn't learn anything from Brazil 2019. Dumb! since lulu was the one who got docked FIA points or whatever they're called, I'd say he was the one who didn't learn anything. :-) |
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Post by jmjgt on Jul 6, 2020 11:40:25 GMT -8
You learn to race people how they race you - Albon didn't learn anything from Brazil 2019. Dumb! since lulu was the one who got docked FIA points or whatever they're called, I'd say he was the one who didn't learn anything. :-) Ham was also the one who apologized (in both cases) so it looks like HE'S the one with the learning deficiencies. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 6, 2020 12:00:41 GMT -8
That is still not answering the question; so a racer goes to make a clean pass on someone and the driver being passed defends by driving right into him/her and the person making the pass is then at fault? Is that what you saying? What I am say is Albon was beyond dumb. You are avoiding the question. Bye bye. |
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Post by mmi16 on Jul 6, 2020 13:02:32 GMT -8
What I am say is Albon was beyond dumb. You are avoiding the question. Bye bye. Bye Felecia! |
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Post by Pistola on Jul 6, 2020 13:27:57 GMT -8
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 6, 2020 13:46:25 GMT -8
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 6, 2020 13:51:07 GMT -8
Answer the question, if you can. |
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Post by mikey on Jul 6, 2020 15:22:33 GMT -8
It looks to me like Lulu was trying to make the exit as narrow as possible so Albon would not take the chance, sorta like when Max chased LeClerc off the road last year and got away with it. He held the wheel straight intending to contend he 'didn't turn into Albon' but it didn't work as the road narrowed and their tires touched. |
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Jul 7, 2020 3:15:03 GMT -8
It looks to me like Lulu was trying to make the exit as narrow as possible so Albon would not take the chance, sorta like when Max chased LeClerc off the road last year and got away with it. He held the wheel straight intending to contend he 'didn't turn into Albon' but it didn't work as the road narrowed and their tires touched. Lewis knew exactly what he was doing; he just thought he'd get away with it is all. |
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Post by mmi16 on Jul 7, 2020 5:25:11 GMT -8
It looks to me like Lulu was trying to make the exit as narrow as possible so Albon would not take the chance, sorta like when Max chased LeClerc off the road last year and got away with it. He held the wheel straight intending to contend he 'didn't turn into Albon' but it didn't work as the road narrowed and their tires touched. Lewis knew exactly what he was doing; he just thought he'd get away with it is all. He and most other racers have been using that move since Hecktor was a pup! The outside pass is never the 'easy' pass unless the passee gives way. If the passer is not fully clear at the apex he is going to be 'squeezed' as the pair approach the track out point. Albon was not clear at the Apex. |
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Jul 7, 2020 5:45:39 GMT -8
Lewis knew exactly what he was doing; he just thought he'd get away with it is all. He and most other racers have been using that move since Hecktor was a pup! The outside pass is never the 'easy' pass unless the passee gives way. If the passer is not fully clear at the apex he is going to be 'squeezed' as the pair approach the track out point. Albon was not clear at the Apex. Irrelevant, the contact took place well after the apex. And if the roles were reversed, Lewis would be screaming. |
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Post by mmi16 on Jul 7, 2020 10:22:01 GMT -8
He and most other racers have been using that move since Hecktor was a pup! The outside pass is never the 'easy' pass unless the passee gives way. If the passer is not fully clear at the apex he is going to be 'squeezed' as the pair approach the track out point. Albon was not clear at the Apex. Irrelevant, the contact took place well after the apex. And if the roles were reversed, Lewis would be screaming. Everybody whines when they are the outside 'passer' that didn't get clear. I've whined when I made the same mistake. When you attempt 'sketchy' passes you will get burnt from time to time. Albon got burnt. Were Lewis to make the same move with the same result he would also be burnt. It is up to the passer to MAKE the pass, Albon didn't. |
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
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