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Post by mmi16 on Mar 18, 2020 14:01:53 GMT -8
I am in a County in PA that has just had our first case. My wife and I are both teachers. She is home and doing nothing but eating bon-bons on the couch. I am still teaching, Chemistry isn't the easiest thing to teach virtually, but I have a lot of tricks up my sleeve, but I need to be online and available for my students from 9am - 2am. My wife has to do nothing, but I am thankful that we still are getting paid and I really feel for those people that are out of work. Both my kids are doing online learning and they are getting a lot more work than normal. Our prinicipal has told us to back off in the amount of work we are assigning. Sounds like you will need to ramp up you data service level on the internet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 14:14:35 GMT -8
A while ago I had started my shopping and left my cart outside the Deli area while I had my order prepared. After getting my order, my cart was gone, I only had 3 or 4 items in it, guess some one wanted them more than I did at that moment in time. I just went back and got my prior items and continued. What a fool you were to leave your stuff unguarded!
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Post by mmi16 on Mar 18, 2020 14:51:01 GMT -8
A while ago I had started my shopping and left my cart outside the Deli area while I had my order prepared. After getting my order, my cart was gone, I only had 3 or 4 items in it, guess some one wanted them more than I did at that moment in time. I just went back and got my prior items and continued. What a fool you were to leave your stuff unguarded! It's not like I had paid for it!
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Post by loudpedal on Mar 28, 2020 6:46:48 GMT -8
This is not in any way confirmed, but it sounds plausible. The report comes from Sky Sports Italia, which is in Italian of course, and Chromium gave a pretty good translation.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Mar 30, 2020 10:09:31 GMT -8
What a fool you were to leave your stuff unguarded! It's not like I had paid for it! I don't think mmi is the fool in this conversation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 12:12:35 GMT -8
Some people have no sense of humor...
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Mar 30, 2020 13:13:36 GMT -8
Some people have no sense of humor... Still waiting for you to say something funny ...
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Mar 30, 2020 13:15:27 GMT -8
This is not in any way confirmed, but it sounds plausible. The report comes from Sky Sports Italia, which is in Italian of course, and Chromium gave a pretty good translation.
Sounds like Seb better have something else lined up if he waits too long to answer.
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Post by Pistola on Mar 30, 2020 13:33:06 GMT -8
German sources put the contact offer at 15 million Euro for the year with performance related bonuses. It's pretty similar to what Kimi was driving for. The only question is if this is more or less or the same as what Chuck is getting. Since the cars will be the same as this years maybe the performance part is a bad deal.
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Post by loudpedal on Mar 30, 2020 15:03:22 GMT -8
German sources put the contact offer at 15 million Euro for the year with performance related bonuses. It's pretty similar to what Kimi was driving for. The only question is if this is more or less or the same as what Chuck is getting. Since the cars will be the same as this years maybe the performance part is a bad deal. That's not chump change, especially with all the covid-19 uncertainty. Unless he has something better lined up he ought to sign before they change their mind.
Maybe he doesn't like that they're only offering a one year deal, but his poor showing last season was more his fault than the car IMHO. I think they are offering one last chance to prove himself.
Seb is past his prime and I'd bet pretty big he won't be going to Red Bull or Mercedes. Anything else would be a pretty big step down.
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Post by Pistola on Mar 30, 2020 15:49:06 GMT -8
German sources put the contact offer at 15 million Euro for the year with performance related bonuses. It's pretty similar to what Kimi was driving for. The only question is if this is more or less or the same as what Chuck is getting. Since the cars will be the same as this years maybe the performance part is a bad deal. That's not chump change, especially with all the covid-19 uncertainty. Unless he has something better lined up he ought to sign before they change their mind.
Maybe he doesn't like that they're only offering a one year deal, but his poor showing last season was more his fault than the car IMHO. I think they are offering one last chance to prove himself.
Seb is past his prime and I'd bet pretty big he won't be going to Red Bull or Mercedes. Anything else would be a pretty big step down.
It's an excellent deal. There's only 4 drivers who earn more this year and Seb is one of them. www.racefans.net/2020/03/30/how-much-are-f1-drivers-earning-in-2020-and-should-their-fees-be-capped/
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Post by jmjgt on Mar 30, 2020 16:23:25 GMT -8
Should be a no brainer unless he lets his ego get in the way.
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Post by mmi16 on Mar 30, 2020 16:28:05 GMT -8
Should be a no brainer unless he lets his ego get in the way. F1 is all ego, all the time.
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Post by mikey on Mar 30, 2020 18:49:49 GMT -8
Should be a no brainer unless he lets his ego get in the way. I think it depends on the bonuses and how they are worded..for instance if it says if he finishes ahead of Chuck he gets a bigger check then they better have another clause about Team Orders or there will be hell to pay!! Because he had that, without the 2nd clause, with Red Bull and Webber got screwed more than once and at this point Ferrari can't win like that. IF the bonuses are big enough Seb will take the deal and then blame the Team everytime something goes wrong, essentially believing in himself to get as big a paycheck as he has in the past, egos are like that. BUT that will require Arrivabene to be alot tougher boss than he has been when things don't go Seb's way, at Red Bull Horner was a wus and gave Seb the bonuses even when he failed to follow Team Orders and/or screwed Webber. This season could be very interesting at Ferrari.
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Post by jmjgt on Mar 30, 2020 19:19:01 GMT -8
Should be a no brainer unless he lets his ego get in the way. I think it depends on the bonuses and how they are worded..for instance if it says if he finishes ahead of Chuck he gets a bigger check then they better have another clause about Team Orders or there will be hell to pay!! Because he had that, without the 2nd clause, with Red Bull and Webber got screwed more than once and at this point Ferrari can't win like that. IF the bonuses are big enough Seb will take the deal and then blame the Team everytime something goes wrong, essentially believing in himself to get as big a paycheck as he has in the past, egos are like that. BUT that will require Arrivabene to be alot tougher boss than he has been when things don't go Seb's way, at Red Bull Horner was a wus and gave Seb the bonuses even when he failed to follow Team Orders and/or screwed Webber. This season could be very interesting at Ferrari. Seb's not dealing from a position of strength anymore, the best he can do is load as many performance based clauses as Ferrari will accept and hit the mark. Still, anything short of a (fighting) 3rd place may not be enough once the sharks hit the contract waters.
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Post by ChemEng on Mar 30, 2020 20:04:45 GMT -8
Should be a no brainer unless he lets his ego get in the way. I read somewhere or maybe heard it on TV that he does not have a manager. He negotiates his own contracts. I assume he has a lawyer review it first.
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Post by olderguysrule on Mar 31, 2020 1:48:52 GMT -8
his contracts with the ded cows were like that. only more so. he got a small salary. and a boat load of incentives. like a million for each win and so on. and yes, no mgr. and it seems I've read that his father reads the contract. no lawyer.
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Post by pushtopass on Mar 31, 2020 15:13:03 GMT -8
I really like Seb and it's been perplexing to me how he has cracked under pressure. Granted, in his RB days he was not under pressure much but I don't recall him doing stupid shit like spinning out of the lead or running into the back of another car under a safety car. I always considered him a cool customer, and appreciated his radio call to the team after his last WDC; something like "remember these days, boys. They can end at anytime"
I hope that he takes the reasonable money and uses it to motivate. I hate to see someone just straggle long after their prime and hope he does not. Be a Kimi!
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Post by jmjgt on Mar 31, 2020 17:01:17 GMT -8
I really like Seb and it's been perplexing to me how he has cracked under pressure. Granted, in his RB days he was not under pressure much but I don't recall him doing stupid shit like spinning out of the lead or running into the back of another car under a safety car. I always considered him a cool customer, and appreciated his radio call to the team after his last WDC; something like "remember these days, boys. They can end at anytime" I hope that he takes the reasonable money and uses it to motivate. I hate to see someone just straggle long after their prime and hope he does not. Be a Kimi! He ran into the back of Webber in Japan under a yellow back in his Toro Rosso days, and that wheel banging with Leclerc in Brazil had Turkey 2010 written all over it. Vettel was usually too far out front or coming through the pack in far superior equipment to deal with the kind of pressure he under now. Seems to me he's been driving rather angrily since his last WDC, that includes his final years at RB.
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Post by Pistola on May 5, 2020 14:48:13 GMT -8
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