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Post by Pistola on Jan 7, 2020 17:43:36 GMT -8
Won't matter if all the good seats are locked in long term. Or should I say the Mercedes seat since the bridge to Ferrari is still smoldering from the fire. The batch of popcorn for 2021 ain't popping too good. I figure the only thing Mercedes is negotiating is the length of Ham's multi-year contract and the length of Bottas' one year contract.  |
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Post by Pistola on Jan 11, 2020 8:43:52 GMT -8
I'm trying to work up some enthusiasm for Ricciardo at Ferrari in 2021. It's an OK thought but it's a very Rubinho framing for Danny.
Max probably has outs if RB's engine situation goes tits up but I don't see Liberty and the FIA not taking care of that.
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Post by olderguysrule on Jan 11, 2020 9:27:00 GMT -8
I'm trying to work up some enthusiasm for Ricciardo at Ferrari in 2021. It's an OK thought but it's a very Rubinho framing for Danny. Max probably has outs if RB's engine situation goes tits up but I don't see Liberty and the FIA not taking care of that. look at my post #41 on this thread. I doubt maxie is going to ferrari until he grows up. which may be never. :-) As for Danny, well, good luck for him. He's one of the nice guys. the problem is in F1 nice guys usually finish last. |
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Post by Sabrina81 on Jan 11, 2020 9:33:17 GMT -8
Jenson did win a title!
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Post by mikey on Jan 11, 2020 10:26:47 GMT -8
I'm trying to work up some enthusiasm for Ricciardo at Ferrari in 2021. It's an OK thought but it's a very Rubinho framing for Danny. Max probably has outs if RB's engine situation goes tits up but I don't see Liberty and the FIA not taking care of that. I don't see Ferrari pairing Max and Charles ever due to the problems they have with Charles and Seb while both think they can be #1. As for Danny I think Ferrari isn't in his future either until/unless he decides he will accept being #2 to Charles, as you said. One of the drivers I do seeing pairing with Charles was/is Hulkenberg but his time may have already passed, I think it depends on when Vettel decides to move on, or they move him on. The sooner that happens the more relevant Hulkenberg is while the longer it takes the less relevant his time in F1 is. |
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Post by ChemEng on Jan 11, 2020 13:01:54 GMT -8
I'm trying to work up some enthusiasm for Ricciardo at Ferrari in 2021. It's an OK thought but it's a very Rubinho framing for Danny. Max probably has outs if RB's engine situation goes tits up but I don't see Liberty and the FIA not taking care of that. I think Vettel is one of the more intelligent and socially agreeable drivers on the grid. I can see where he might just decide to be nice with Charles and accept the fact that number two on a top team may be his best option if he wants to keep racing. Kimi has essentially done the same thing. I really don't think Kimi needs the money, I think he enjoys the competition even if that is fighting for a mid-pack points finish. |
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Post by olderguysrule on Jan 11, 2020 14:13:24 GMT -8
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Post by Pistola on Jan 17, 2020 11:25:37 GMT -8
La Gazzetta in Italy is speculating that Mercedes offer to Hammy is 2 yrs @ 45 million per year.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jan 17, 2020 14:43:55 GMT -8
Sounds about right to me.
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Post by mikey on Jan 17, 2020 15:33:00 GMT -8
La Gazzetta in Italy is speculating that Mercedes offer to Hammy is 2 yrs @ 45 million per year. I would guess he wants to be the 'goat' in as many records as he can, meaning more of everything that he can than MSchumacher and maybe even the most races in F1 too, so his contracts with Mercedes will reflect his progress towards that. No sense for him to go anywhere since they are facilitating his records. |
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Post by pushtopass on Jan 18, 2020 8:57:36 GMT -8
One wonders why they would pay him so much if the driver is not important?
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jan 20, 2020 5:27:48 GMT -8
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jan 20, 2020 9:24:41 GMT -8
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Post by mikey on Jan 20, 2020 14:21:19 GMT -8
One wonders why they would pay him so much if the driver is not important? I realize that was rhetorical but I'm not sure just any driver could step into his car and drive it like he does to a Championship, cars evolve over time to adjust the setup and settings to each driver and the two of them KNOW what is possible and what they can do to make the car the best if can be for Lewis. Making the car the best for Lewis may justmake it a POS for ALOT of other drivers!! I'm guessing the same thing applies to 99% of the cars on the track as even Kimi and Ricciardo couldn't make their cars a winner. |
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Post by Pistola on Jan 20, 2020 14:53:02 GMT -8
One wonders why they would pay him so much if the driver is not important? Because Nico is no longer there to take a cut of the cash.  |
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Post by jmjgt on Jan 20, 2020 18:43:25 GMT -8
One wonders why they would pay him so much if the driver is not important? I realize that was rhetorical but I'm not sure just any driver could step into his car and drive it like he does to a Championship, cars evolve over time to adjust the setup and settings to each driver and the two of them KNOW what is possible and what they can do to make the car the best if can be for Lewis. Making the car the best for Lewis may justmake it a POS for ALOT of other drivers!! I'm guessing the same thing applies to 99% of the cars on the track as even Kimi and Ricciardo couldn't make their cars a winner. The advantage the Mercs have enjoyed is such that any driver that can get within .5 secs a lap of lulu could have been champion driving for that team if he wasn't there. The margins they've had in the WDC's and WCC's tells you all you need to know. It would take a Roberto Mehri of Jolyn Palmer to make a pigs breakfast of THAT juggernaut' |
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Post by mikey on Jan 20, 2020 20:18:48 GMT -8
I realize that was rhetorical but I'm not sure just any driver could step into his car and drive it like he does to a Championship, cars evolve over time to adjust the setup and settings to each driver and the two of them KNOW what is possible and what they can do to make the car the best if can be for Lewis. Making the car the best for Lewis may justmake it a POS for ALOT of other drivers!! I'm guessing the same thing applies to 99% of the cars on the track as even Kimi and Ricciardo couldn't make their cars a winner. The advantage the Mercs have enjoyed is such that any driver that can get within .5 secs a lap of lulu could have been champion driving for that team if he wasn't there. The margins they've had in the WDC's and WCC's tells you all you need to know. It would take a Roberto Mehri of Jolyn Palmer to make a pigs breakfast of THAT juggernaut' I agree with you but my question would be how many races did Lulu slow down in and only do enough to win in as opposed to have to drive to hold onto the win by .5 or less seconds? I think there were far more he only did enough to stay ahead as opposed to push hard to stay ahead. I'm not doing the research, nor should anyone else, as this is more of a we will never actually know the full truth as Merc doesn't give out that kind of info anyway. In his 6 WDC's Lulu I think had more than a few races where he was in cruise control mode as opposed to those he had to drive his butt off to finish, now in the last couple years I do agree that Lulu and Merc were having to bring of their A game to win. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jan 21, 2020 6:19:44 GMT -8
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Post by jmjgt on Jan 21, 2020 9:09:32 GMT -8
If you count ALL of the drivers that were still on the grid at the beginning of the hybrid era (and have since moved on) I'd say it was closer to 18. And that's not counting Rosberg. |
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Post by Pistola on Jan 27, 2020 8:27:55 GMT -8
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA