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Post by truenorth on Aug 11, 2018 11:14:40 GMT -8
Talking about Pedrosa at KTM as tester. He's a great rider but he is so small & struggles to hear tyres compared to others. Shouldn't test rider be sort of stunt double of actual riders to be of use?
Julian Ryder It’s a good point. Cal said one of the reasons HRC got him to test stuff as that he was normal. In other words he doesn’t weigh 50kg and he’s not Marc Marquez
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Post by truenorth on Aug 11, 2018 12:07:59 GMT -8
Yamaha's Worst Qualifying In Years: How It Happened, And How Yamaha Are Going To Fix It Submitted by David Emmett on Sat, 2018-08-11 19:50
For the Movistar Yamaha factory team, qualifying for the Austrian MotoGP round at the Red Bull Ring was an unmitigated disaster. Maverick Viñales qualified in eleventh place, while Valentino Rossi failed to make it out of Q1 and will be forced to start from fourteenth. It was the factory Yamaha team's worst dry qualifying result since Valencia 2007.
Comparing times from qualifying at Spielberg in 2017 with times from Saturday illustrate Yamaha's predicament quite clearly. Times for the front row riders between this year and last are pretty much identical, as were the times set by Johann Zarco in 2017 and 2018. But Maverick Viñales was half a second slower this year than he was last year, and Valentino Rossi was four tenths slower.
The problem is a familiar one. The factory version of the Yamaha M1 is difficult to control in acceleration, and uses up the rear tire too much. How badly that affects the bike varies from track to track, but the Red Bull Ring is the Yamaha's kryptonite: at a track where most of the corners are from low gear with hard acceleration, the M1 is losing out very badly.
Unprecedented
Yamaha's poor qualifying performance produced a remarkable spectacle. In an act of commendable openness and honesty, Yamaha rearranged their normal media debriefs for Rossi and Viñales, to allow YZR-M1 project leader Kouji Tsuya to make a statement. It was a formal apology to the riders for the poor performance of the bike.
Yamaha's communications manager William Favero explained why Yamaha were taking this step. "We as Yamaha, owe our riders and also you an explanation," Favero said." A technical explanation about the difficulties we have been facing so far."
Tsuya's tone was contrite. "Today was a very difficult day for us," he said. "We are struggling with the acceleration performance, which means the power delivery, to adjust the power delivery more precisely. But this track we know is the most difficult track for us. Because we couldn’t achieve a more precise power delivery for our riders. That's why this is maybe the worst qualifying result for us. But then I have to apologize to the riders for our lack of acceleration performance today."
Additional failures
Maverick Viñales had suffered an extra problem, with a number of sensors failing on one of his bikes during practice. "Also for Maverick, today and on Friday as well, we have some sensor problems on our bike," Tsuya said. "We disturbed Maverick's concentration too much, so now still we are investigating how we can solve this problem for tomorrow."
"I just want to say sorry to our riders, to not [be able to] concentrate to go faster and to get a better result for qualifying. Also we have some technical problems with Maverick and are missing some performance now. So we are struggling and have to say sorry to the riders. Now we are working hard as ever to find the solution, so after this race we have a test in Misano, before Silverstone and also after Silverstone we have a test at Aragon to find a solution for these difficulties. But at the moment we will concentrate first of all for tomorrow to get a better result for our riders."
Close racing magnifies problems
After Rossi and Viñales had spoken to the media, I talked to Yamaha Motor Racing Managing Director Lin Jarvis and Movistar Yamaha Team Director Maio Meregalli about the situation Yamaha find themselves in. Both men agreed that the closeness of the field made the problems with the M1 look much bigger than they are. "If you talk about last weekend, where we didn't make it to the podium, which was a disappointing result, but we were 2 seconds off the lead in the race. And we were leading for half the race," Jarvis pointed out.
The chassis and base setup of the bike is very strong, Jarvis said, as Rossi has repeatedly told the press. "This year with the chassis, the weight distribution, I feel very good, but now in the electronic side [Honda and Ducati] made a huge step, and this is the step that unfortunately with Yamaha we are not able to do," Rossi said. "For me this is the key. They have to understand which way to improve, because for me the rest of the bike is good."
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Post by truenorth on Aug 11, 2018 12:16:02 GMT -8
Austria: Rossi pushing for Yamaha response 11.08.2018 BSN Aaron Rowles Valentino Rossi has pushed for Yamaha to respond to his worst MotoGP qualifying position since Phillip Island in 2016 after qualifying in fourteenth position at the Red Bull Ring. Over a year since their last win, Yamaha are enduring their leanest spell since the Italian joined them and things look like they’re getting worse rather than better. After qualifying down in the middle of the fifth row, Rossi has pushed for Yamaha to respond to the issues like they did back in 2004 when he first joined them. “I do not know [if it’s the worst it’s been since he joined Yamaha], when I arrived, a long time ago, in 2004, Yamaha was much worse than now,” said the nine-time World Champion. “But in a year they reacted very strongly, they put in a different organisation. More money, more people, and in one year we were able to have the M1 of 2005, which, for me, is the best M1 that I have ridden. “We have to try to do the same. The situation is similar to August of last year, it’s true that in some circuits we suffer less, but in others, we suffer more.” Rossi looks back to the winter when Yamaha failed to move in the right direction. After complaining about acceleration issues but Yamaha instead worked and perfected the chassis and weight distribution issues. “In 2017, our rivals, Ducati and Honda, had much worse performance and I didn’t feel good with the chassis, or with the mechanical part,” he said. “This year, with the chassis and the weight distribution, I feel better. They took an incredible step, this is the step that we can’t do with Yamaha, that is the key, to understand which way to improve, because, for me, the rest of the bike is good.” Before Rossi’s debrief on Saturday afternoon Yamaha MotoGP project leader Kouji Tsuya issued a public apology to both Rossi and his Movistar Yamaha team mate Maverick Vinales for the current state of the M1. Rossi acknowledged and thanked Tsuya for the apology, but said he just wants to get to work and improve the bike. “I view this apology very positively and thank Tsuya for having done that, but, rather than apologies, we need to sort our bike. We need results, and quickly, because we’re behind compared to Honda and Ducati,” said Rossi.
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Post by truenorth on Aug 11, 2018 18:41:14 GMT -8
Lorenzo: "I could have been on pole, there was a misunderstanding": Jorge: "I'm as fast as Dovi and Marc, but if I want to break away, I'll need to take a step forward in warm-up"
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Post by truenorth on Aug 12, 2018 3:41:32 GMT -8
2018 Austria Moto2 Race Result: Battle Of The Titans
Submitted by Zara Daniela on Sun, 2018-08-12 11:27
It took over half a season to finally get a proper battle between the two title challengers of the intermediate class and it was worth the wait. Bagnaia vs Oliveira was the story of the day at the picturesque Red Bull Ring, the Italian claiming bragging rights in the final corner, stealing the win from his Portuguese rival. Oliveira had led for almost the entire race and will have been disappointed to relinquish the win and the championship lead to Bagnaia so late in proceedings. Five seconds behind that battle, Luca Marini was best of the rest as he continued to go from strength to strength and claim the final podium position.
Bagnaia had started from pole position but a poor launch allowed Oliveira past and the SKY rider then tangled with Fabio Quartararo. The Frenchman came off the worse as he went off the circuit and dropped outside the top 20. Meanwhile, Jorge Navarro demoted Bagnaia another place and set off for Oliveira but the leader already had half a second in hand by the end of lap one. The few incidents at the start caused one second’s gap to appear between the three leaders and the rest of the pack, led by Alex Marquez, who had a push of his own with Marcel Schrotter. The Spaniard quickly separated from the chasing group but had a bit of work to do to bridge the gap to Bagnaia.
By lap five, Oliveira’s advantage stretched to one second and Bagnaia picked up the task of cutting that gap once he made it past Navarro. Marquez was faster than the leaders at this point so he managed to tag along to the lead three and lined up Navarro. Mattia Pasini was another seven tenths of a second back, stuck in no man’s land, one second ahead of the youngsters’ battle between Marini, Brad Binder and Joan Mir. The Spaniard had a dismal qualifying but got up to speed real fast to join the top eight. Both Schrotter and Iker Lecuona showed good speed throughout the weekend and were completing the top ten but with a bit of a gap to the men ahead. Meanwhile, Quartararo was up to 11th by lap ten.
Marquez finally made a move on Navarro to claim third on lap ten and Pasini also followed him through, but the Marc VDS rider was already two and a half seconds down on Oliveira and Bagnaia. And bringing down that gap looked difficult with Pasini, Navarro, Marini and Binder waiting to pounce right behind him. Teammate Mir was no longer an issue as he had dropped a second on the group.
Back at the front, Bagnaia looked like he was biding his time behind Oliveira, while Pasini took his turn on provisional podium ahead of Marquez. Marini was also in that battle but was hit with a penalty for repeatedly exceeding track limits and had to drop one place. That did not lose him too much time and the Italian soon made it back past Marquez and Pasini to claim a provisional podium with seven laps to go, four seconds behind the victory battle.
Oliveira finally saw a rear tyre ahead of him with five laps remaining, when Bagnaia showed intentions but could not make it stick. The Italian had to put something together on the final lap and he held his nerve to make it happen in the final turn after a bit of pain swapping with his rival. Marquez and Marini were embroiled in a battle of their own for the final podium spot but that ended in the runoff of the final corner when Marquez attacked overenthusiastically and slid out of contention. Pasini settled for fourth, with a best result of the season for Navarro in fifth. Positions five to ten went to Binder, Schrotter, Mir, Quartararo and Lecuona.
Bagnaia’s impressive win puts him back ahead in the title battle, leading Oliveira by three points. Marquez loses further ground, 76 points down but keeps third position.
Results:
Pos. Num. Rider Bike Gap
1 42 Francesco BAGNAIA Kalex 37'45.914
2 44 Miguel OLIVEIRA KTM +0.264
3 10 Luca MARINI Kalex +5.953
4 54 Mattia PASINI Kalex +6.114
5 9 Jorge NAVARRO Kalex +8.554
6 41 Brad BINDER KTM +8.944
7 23 Marcel SCHROTTER Kalex +9.126
8 36 Joan MIR Kalex +12.404
9 20 Fabio QUARTARARO Speed Up +16.250
10 27 Iker LECUONA KTM +16.718
11 13 Romano FENATI Kalex +16.829
12 52 Danny KENT Speed Up +17.716
13 5 Andrea LOCATELLI Kalex +23.200
14 62 Stefano MANZI Suter +27.944
15 45 Tetsuta NAGASHIMA Kalex +27.994
16 89 Khairul Idham PAWI Kalex +28.493
17 77 Dominique AEGERTER KTM +29.043
18 4 Steven ODENDAAL NTS +38.176
19 16 Joe ROBERTS NTS +40.544
20 95 Jules DANILO Kalex +41.655
21 66 Niki TUULI Kalex +41.727
22 64 Bo BENDSNEYDER Tech 3 +42.766
23 32 Isaac VIÑALES Suter +43.811
24 55 Alejandro MEDINA Kalex +45.372
25 18 Xavi CARDELUS Kalex +51.185
26 7 Lorenzo BALDASSARRI Kalex +1'13.901
Not Classified
73 Alex MARQUEZ Kalex 1 Lap
22 Sam LOWES KTM 8 Laps
21 Federico FULIGNI Kalex 8 Laps
24 Simone CORSI Kalex 22 Laps
87 Remy GARDNER Tech 3 22 Laps
40 Augusto FERNANDEZ Kalex 22 Laps
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Post by truenorth on Aug 12, 2018 3:59:28 GMT -8
Marquez... goes under lap record in WUP, crashes on the next lap, gets back on and without going back to the garage he laps within 0.2 secs of his best on the next time around
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Post by truenorth on Aug 12, 2018 4:20:40 GMT -8
2018 Austria Moto3 Race Result: Speed Vs Resilience Submitted by Zara Daniela on Sun, 2018-08-12 10:12
The Red Bull Ring was looking glorious once again, as the sun returned to shine on the day’s racing. Things calmed down somewhat on track as well, the first race of the day not the usual chaos in the lightweight class. It was an excellent morning for KTM though, Marco Bezzecchi taking a commanding victory to extend his championship lead. Enea Bastianini is pilling on the recovery rides after another race in which he caused trouble for himself by losing ground at the start from an already underwhelming grid position only to blast his way through the field and claim second. Jorge Martin’s front row start was already an impressive achievement but the Spaniard’s race was more than damage limitation – it was a courageous ride in which he challenged his main rival until the very last lap and ultimately snuck onto the podium.
The two main title rivals maintained position at the start, poleman Bezzecchi ahead of hero Martin, but by lap two only Gabriel Rodrigo and Albert Arenas had managed to keep in touch with the leaders, Tony Arbolino and Aron Canet leading the massive group eight tenths of a second down the road. Bezzecchi’s KTM rocket launched on the straights and made him a very difficult rabbit to chase. His runaway strategy was helped by Martin, Rodrigo and Arenas engaging in battle right behind him in the first few laps. This also helped the chasers, with Jaume Masia soon on their tails and attacking for the podium. Lorenzo Dalla Porta and Arbolino also merged with the leaders, while Canet had another eight tenths to find in order to join them. Another half a second back, an elite group with Di Giannantonio, Jakub Kornfeil, Bastianini and Marcos Ramirez was still entertaining thoughts of a podium.
By lap eight, Bezzecchi was still unchallenged but his gap rarely got over half a second and Martin’s injured wrist did not look to impede him too much yet. Arenas and Masia were trailing them closely but both Dalla Porta and Rodrigo had trouble keeping within the limits of the track and got separated from the four leaders, dropping back into the clutches of Di Giannantonio, Arbolino and Bastianini. A pretty anonymous Canet was tenth, another second back on the riders ahead and not making much noise.
Bezzecchi continued to lead into the halfway point of proceedings, while Martin was presumably getting distracted from the pain by Masia’s incessant attacks, with Arenas struggling to keep within track limits behind them. Nearly three seconds behind the podium battle, Bastianini had taken initiative in the chasing group made up of Di Giannantonio, Dalla Porta, Arbolino, Rodrigo and Canet, the Spaniard finally catching up with them but not making any moves.
With ten laps left, Masia picked up the task of pulling Bezzecchi back and did a fantastic job to keep him within two tenths of a second most times but Martin wanted to have a go himself and the battle for second once again allowed Bezzecchi some breathing space. Three laps later, the Italian’s gap went over half a second, leaving Martin, Masia and Arenas to settle the remaining podium positions. Bastianini finally reduced the gap to under two seconds, bringing teammate Dalla Porta with him, but the Leopard duo did not yet look like a threat to the men ahead. They did pull ahead of Arbolino, Rodrigo and Di Giannantonio by almost two seconds, with Canet dropping back drastically, down to 12th with four laps left.
The leader’s gap was once again swallowed by Martin & co and the Italian finally saw a bike ahead of him with three laps remaining, when a valiant Martin attempted a couple of attacks but the grunt of the KTM slid past the Honda every time. To add some more spice to proceedings, Bastianini had been posting fastest laps and catching up with the leaders at an alarming rate. The Italian attacked Arenas at the start of the final lap, Martin half a lap later and Masia in the final few turns. Martin saw an opportunity to sneak past as well and the move sent Masia in a rodeo that he just about saved to finish sixth, falling behind Arenas and Dalla Porta.
Having started dead last following his qualifying misfortunes, John McPhee had made his way into the lead of the second group by the start of the last lap but the tight fight saw him lose out by the time they arrived to the finish line and the CIP rider dropped back to 12th. Ayumu Sasaki was best of the pack in seventh position, ahead of Rodrigo, Arbolino and with Canet completing the top ten, Di Giannantonio missing out by only one hundredth of a second.
Bezzecchi’s victory extends his lead in the championship to 12 points, Martin's stellar ride ensuring a limited points loss. Teammate Di Giannantonio kept third, 37 points down on the leader and there points ahead of Canet.
Results:
Pos. Num. Rider Bike Gap 1 12 Marco BEZZECCHI KTM 37'13.198 2 33 Enea BASTIANINI Honda +0.473 3 88 Jorge MARTIN Honda +0.544 4 75 Albert ARENAS KTM +1.373 5 48 Lorenzo DALLA PORTA Honda +1.421 6 5 Jaume MASIA KTM +1.519 7 71 Ayumu SASAKI Honda +8.585 8 19 Gabriel RODRIGO KTM +8.658 9 14 Tony ARBOLINO Honda +8.691 10 44 Aron CANET Honda +8.809 11 21 Fabio DI GIANNANTONIO Honda +8.824 12 17 John MCPHEE KTM +8.944 13 84 Jakub KORNFEIL KTM +9.671 14 65 Philipp OETTL KTM +14.685 15 42 Marcos RAMIREZ KTM +14.697 16 27 Kaito TOBA Honda +19.377 17 7 Adam NORRODIN Honda +19.419 18 24 Tatsuki SUZUKI Honda +19.504 19 40 Darryn BINDER KTM +19.550 20 32 Ai OGURA Honda +19.602 21 22 Kazuki MASAKI KTM +19.706 22 23 Niccolò ANTONELLI Honda +19.981 23 8 Nicolo BULEGA KTM +23.419 24 72 Alonso LOPEZ Honda +24.056 25 77 Vicente PEREZ KTM +27.634 26 10 Dennis FOGGIA KTM +27.747 27 81 Stefano NEPA KTM +35.938 28 41 Nakarin ATIRATPHUVAPAT Honda +46.868 29 73 Maximilian KOFLER KTM +47.289 Not Classified 16 Andrea MIGNO KTM 12 Laps
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Post by truenorth on Aug 12, 2018 4:30:31 GMT -8
ANGIE Jorge finished Warm-up in 3rd place. That should be a hint
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Post by truenorth on Aug 12, 2018 4:54:37 GMT -8
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Post by truenorth on Aug 12, 2018 4:54:57 GMT -8
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Post by truenorth on Aug 12, 2018 4:56:37 GMT -8
CLASIFICACIÓN #MotoGP 🏆 1º Marquez 201 pts 2º Rossi 142 3º Lorenzo 130 4º Dovi 129
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Post by truenorth on Aug 12, 2018 4:57:24 GMT -8
Mat Oxley JL shows that the soft rear can work and last just as well - or better - as the medium or hard rears when the track temperature and conditions are right
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Post by truenorth on Aug 12, 2018 4:59:51 GMT -8
EYETIME MOTORRAD GRAND PRIX VON ÖSTERREICH MotoGP Race Classification 2018
Spielberg, Sunday, August 12, 2018
Pos. Points Num. Rider Nation Team Bike Km/h Time/Gap 1 25 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Ducati Team Ducati 182.8 39'40.688 2 20 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 182.8 +0.130 3 16 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 182.7 +1.656 4 13 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR LCR Honda CASTROL Honda 182.1 +9.434 5 11 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 181.8 +13.169 6 10 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 181.7 +14.026 7 9 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 181.7 +14.156 8 8 42 Alex RINS SPA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 181.5 +16.644 9 7 5 Johann ZARCO FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 181.2 +20.760 10 6 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA Angel Nieto Team Ducati 181.2 +20.844 11 5 53 Tito RABAT SPA Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 181.2 +21.114 12 4 25 Maverick VIÑALES SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 181.0 +22.939 13 3 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 180.8 +26.523 14 2 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 180.6 +29.168 15 1 30 Takaaki NAKAGAMI JPN LCR Honda IDEMITSU Honda 180.5 +30.072 16 55 Hafizh SYAHRIN MAL Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 180.5 +30.343 17 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 180.4 +31.775 18 43 Jack MILLER AUS Alma Pramac Racing Ducati 180.2 +34.375 19 21 Franco MORBIDELLI ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 179.7 +40.171 20 45 Scott REDDING GBR Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 178.8 +53.020 21 17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Angel Nieto Team Ducati 178.8 +53.261 22 12 Thomas LUTHI SWI EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 178.7 +54.355 Not Classified 10 Xavier SIMEON BEL Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 178.8 18 Laps
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Post by truenorth on Aug 12, 2018 5:11:14 GMT -8
Dovi: "The front tyre was going well but the rear one has spent a lot of exaggerated way. I've been after Jorge and wanted to advance but was not able because it slows down a lot and slows down the curve, that has complicated the race. I had to give up 10 laps. "
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Post by Pistola on Aug 12, 2018 9:24:19 GMT -8
Highly entertaining last laps.
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