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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Dec 9, 2021 5:32:00 GMT -8
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Post by hairyscotsman on Dec 9, 2021 7:16:46 GMT -8
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Post by truenorth on Dec 9, 2021 7:45:57 GMT -8
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Post by overboost on Dec 9, 2021 9:02:02 GMT -8
How many points is Masi docking Hamilton for Silverstone? 25?
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Post by truenorth on Dec 9, 2021 9:19:01 GMT -8
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Post by hairyscotsman on Dec 9, 2021 11:02:40 GMT -8
How many points is Masi docking Hamilton for Silverstone? 25? Yep, and how many is he docking Bottas/Merc for intentionally holding up Max to create a bigger gap to Lewis under the yellow in SA?
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Post by pushtopass on Dec 9, 2021 11:21:37 GMT -8
The latter part of this statement goes for all drivers about 95% of the time. How many times did Rosberg raise his hand and say "it was my fault"? Being good in the media and politics is part of the game.
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Post by pushtopass on Dec 9, 2021 11:23:53 GMT -8
How many points is Masi docking Hamilton for Silverstone? 25? Yep, and how many is he docking Bottas/Merc for intentionally holding up Max to create a bigger gap to Lewis under the yellow in SA? Did you hear any more about this? I know that the one time Max was complaining that there was too large of a gap it was not a situation where that was required, but I wasn't sure how much Bottas actually held up Max at that point. It should be in the data; do you know how much and if that is outside of the limits? I also noticed that every time there was a VSC, Max's gap directly after it ended was always a bit more than it was when it started. Not sure how that works.
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Post by hairyscotsman on Dec 9, 2021 11:34:14 GMT -8
Yep, and how many is he docking Bottas/Merc for intentionally holding up Max to create a bigger gap to Lewis under the yellow in SA? Did you hear any more about this? I know that the one time Max was complaining that there was too large of a gap it was not a situation where that was required, but I wasn't sure how much Bottas actually held up Max at that point. It should be in the data; do you know how much and if that is outside of the limits? I also noticed that every time there was a VSC, Max's gap directly after it ended was always a bit more than it was when it started. Not sure how that works. Nah, I didn't hear any more in terms of the details.
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Post by pushtopass on Dec 9, 2021 13:51:09 GMT -8
Did you hear any more about this? I know that the one time Max was complaining that there was too large of a gap it was not a situation where that was required, but I wasn't sure how much Bottas actually held up Max at that point. It should be in the data; do you know how much and if that is outside of the limits? I also noticed that every time there was a VSC, Max's gap directly after it ended was always a bit more than it was when it started. Not sure how that works. Nah, I didn't hear any more in terms of the details. So you have no details that illustrate that what he did was against the rules, but you want him penalized? I'm confused.
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Post by mikey on Dec 9, 2021 15:55:39 GMT -8
How many points is Masi docking Hamilton for Silverstone? 25? How about points and time penalties will Lewis get for rear ending Max on a straight!!! WHY didn't the Stewards get involved with that? It's NOT Max or Red Bulls fault Lulu didn't get the info that he Max needed to give the spot back but all we hear is crickets from the FIA!!! When Lewis was cruising around very slowly and Mazepin nearly rear ended him Lewis thanked him for not running into him, next Mazepin should yell 'HE BRAKE CHECKED ME' over the radio for the Stewards to get their attention.
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Post by pushtopass on Dec 9, 2021 16:09:33 GMT -8
How many points is Masi docking Hamilton for Silverstone? 25? How about points and time penalties will Lewis get for rear ending Max on a straight!!! WHY didn't the Stewards get involved with that? It's NOT Max or Red Bulls fault Lulu didn't get the info that he Max needed to give the spot back but all we hear is crickets from the FIA!!! When Lewis was cruising around very slowly and Mazepin nearly rear ended him Lewis thanked him for not running into him, next Mazepin should yell 'HE BRAKE CHECKED ME' over the radio for the Stewards to get their attention. In this case, if you haven't been paying attention, even Marko has admitted that Max slammed on the brakes knowing that Lewis was right behind him. So he DID brake check him, in essence. As former champions have said, that is not the way to give up a spot. Slamming on your brakes in the middle of a race in the middle of the track in the middle of a straight is erratic driving and so he was penalized. Note that they knew when they assigned the penalty that it would have no bearing on the outcome of the race.
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Post by hairyscotsman on Dec 9, 2021 16:16:08 GMT -8
Nah, I didn't hear any more in terms of the details. So you have no details that illustrate that what he did was against the rules, but you want him penalized? I'm confused. As emphasized by Masi today ... What Bottas did in SA was clearly done to help his teammate and disadvantage his teammate's rival, and to influence the result in an unsporting, unethical, unfair manner. I don't need the data. I have eyes. It's not rocket surgery.
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Post by mmi16 on Dec 9, 2021 16:17:27 GMT -8
How about points and time penalties will Lewis get for rear ending Max on a straight!!! WHY didn't the Stewards get involved with that? It's NOT Max or Red Bulls fault Lulu didn't get the info that he Max needed to give the spot back but all we hear is crickets from the FIA!!! When Lewis was cruising around very slowly and Mazepin nearly rear ended him Lewis thanked him for not running into him, next Mazepin should yell 'HE BRAKE CHECKED ME' over the radio for the Stewards to get their attention. In this case, if you haven't been paying attention, even Marko has admitted that Max slammed on the brakes knowing that Lewis was right behind him. So he DID brake check him, in essence. As former champions have said, that is not the way to give up a spot. Slamming on your brakes in the middle of a race in the middle of the track in the middle of a straight is erratic driving and so he was penalized. Note that they knew when they assigned the penalty that it would have no bearing on the outcome of the race. Hitting someone that is brake checking you is YOUR MISTAKE - your attention was misfocused.
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Post by racerman967 on Dec 9, 2021 16:33:56 GMT -8
Why do i have a feeling that Masi deducting points is a one way street?
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Post by racerman967 on Dec 9, 2021 16:35:25 GMT -8
How about points and time penalties will Lewis get for rear ending Max on a straight!!! WHY didn't the Stewards get involved with that? It's NOT Max or Red Bulls fault Lulu didn't get the info that he Max needed to give the spot back but all we hear is crickets from the FIA!!! When Lewis was cruising around very slowly and Mazepin nearly rear ended him Lewis thanked him for not running into him, next Mazepin should yell 'HE BRAKE CHECKED ME' over the radio for the Stewards to get their attention. In this case, if you haven't been paying attention, even Marko has admitted that Max slammed on the brakes knowing that Lewis was right behind him. So he DID brake check him, in essence. As former champions have said, that is not the way to give up a spot. Slamming on your brakes in the middle of a race in the middle of the track in the middle of a straight is erratic driving and so he was penalized. Note that they knew when they assigned the penalty that it would have no bearing on the outcome of the race. Well he did it the correct way first and slowed down, 150 KPH below normal speed for that section and Lewis refused to pass. I still do not now a race driver not named Hamilton who doesn't simply pass at that point.
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Post by overboost on Dec 9, 2021 16:45:41 GMT -8
I went go-karting last week. One of the cars in front of me slowed on the straight.
I passed him.
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Post by struns on Dec 9, 2021 17:02:51 GMT -8
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Post by jmjgt on Dec 9, 2021 17:15:17 GMT -8
I went go-karting last week. One of the cars in front of me slowed on the straight. I passed him. You'll never be a world champion.
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Post by Placid on Dec 9, 2021 17:38:51 GMT -8
Another worst-case scenario if Lewis and Max crashing.
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