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Post by Sabrina81 on Sept 15, 2021 10:37:46 GMT -8
Clearly fine? did Max walk back to the pits in England. Was the medical car called out for lulu in Italy? bit of a difference there. Verstappen was clearly shaken after his crash in England, couldn't stand, was disoriented and required assistance. 51G crash. A very dirty crash by Hamilton. Lewis was so disoriented after his crash, he flew to New York in a private jet and walked the red carpet in a dress with his cabal of fashion designers.  |
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Post by Boomer on Sept 15, 2021 11:15:00 GMT -8
Hamilton: "Serial whiner"! |
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Post by noonesfan18 on Sept 15, 2021 12:11:59 GMT -8
Well In my mind if you are at least a quarter of the way alongside someone and he crashes that is on him. If you are basically side by side with that guy and both of you crash. It is on the both of you.
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Post by overboost on Sept 15, 2021 12:32:15 GMT -8
Well In my mind if you are at least a quarter of the way alongside someone and he crashes that is on him. If you are basically side by side with that guy and both of you crash. It is on the both of you. The rules actually say in this situation that Hamilton needed to give 1 car width of space. He didn't. Hamilton's fault. |
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Post by mmi16 on Sept 15, 2021 12:39:05 GMT -8
Should 'overtaking lights' be affixed to the cars mirrors - like is now commonplace on street cars to indicate when a car width needs to be given by the car being 'overtaken'?
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Sept 15, 2021 12:53:01 GMT -8
Should 'overtaking lights' be affixed to the cars mirrors - like is now commonplace on street cars to indicate when a car width needs to be given by the car being 'overtaken'? Penalize as the rules are and they will learn. There is NO way Lewis did not see Max's RF tire next to or slightly ahead of his head. This penalty will give more reason to be obstinate. |
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Post by olderguysrule on Sept 15, 2021 12:59:57 GMT -8
I've read the comments on Maxie's and Sir lulu's fiasco since Sunday morning, here and on the internets. Here's my take. The only way this end up well for Max is if Lulu bails. Lulu bailed on the 1st lap or whenever. Does he really think Lulu is gonna bail again? Or that Lulu is gonna bail every time Max forces the issue? Besides their 1st lap think there's been at least a couple of other times this season where max forced the issue and Lulu bailed. And I'm not thinking of their Silverstone crash. On that one Lulu punted Maxie off and got dinged for a meaningless 10 seconds. After Sunday neither scored but It didn't pay off as Maxie got a 3 grid spot dinger.
Maxie seems to be racing every race as if it is a stand alone race. It seems to me he's not yet figured out he should be taking the long view. Losing a couple points to Lulu on Sunday was the winner as compared to taking the 3 grid spot dinger in Russia in a couple of weeks. I think of the old Kenny Rogers song, The Gambler. It's like Kenny is singing that song to Maxie. Ya got to know when to hold em. Know when to fold em. And so on. And Every hands a winner, and every hands a loser. The best ya can hope for is to die in your sleep. I posted it in the Stevie Ray Vaughn thread. Listen to the lyrics.
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Post by r60man on Sept 15, 2021 16:57:31 GMT -8
Should 'overtaking lights' be affixed to the cars mirrors - like is now commonplace on street cars to indicate when a car width needs to be given by the car being 'overtaken'? Nice idea. Maybe with warning beeps too!
I did notice when on my motorcycle trip a month or so ago those really help keep cars from merging on me. I like them a lot.
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Post by hairyscotsman on Sept 15, 2021 17:07:43 GMT -8
Should 'overtaking lights' be affixed to the cars mirrors - like is now commonplace on street cars to indicate when a car width needs to be given by the car being 'overtaken'? Penalize as the rules are and they will learn. There is NO way Lewis did not see Max's RF tire next to or slightly ahead of his head. This penalty will give more reason to be obstinate. Yeah, & you should see the lengths that some of the fanbois over on Autosport are going to to put all the blame on Max & prop up the GOAT Lulu myth. One guy keeps saying there was no way Lewis could have known where Max was or that he was beside him, even when Max's wing was almost to Lewis's LF wheel. He then goes into all kinds of talk about not being able to see him because he was looking at the apex, talk about curved mirror distortions, allusions to mathematical equations re: such distortion, and so on. It's truly phenomenal. But surprisingly, most people even on that Brit-dominated board think it's a racing incident or Lewis's fault. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Sept 15, 2021 22:26:06 GMT -8
Oh, and the fanbois are also up in arms over Max not stopping to check on Lewis as he walked by. Never mind that Lewis was frantically spinning his wheels repeatedly trying to get unbeached, and never mind that we could all see clearly even on TV that Lewis was moving around fine in the cockpit. Surely Max could see him a lot better than we could at home, walking just a few feet away, no? And never mind that Lewis continued trying to drive the car out as Max walked past. Was Max supposed to walk up to the car Lewis was trying to remove from the gravel?
What a bunch of idiotic drama queens.
And now there's a guy telling me that there's no possible way Lewis could have moved toward Max in a righthander while his wheel was turned to the right. What in the actual fuck? You can't make up this kind of desperation & stupidity.
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Post by noonesfan18 on Sept 16, 2021 10:28:24 GMT -8
Fandums are generally unhealthy and toxic to be a part of.
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Post by mmi16 on Sept 16, 2021 17:14:04 GMT -8
Oh, and the fanbois are also up in arms over Max not stopping to check on Lewis as he walked by. Never mind that Lewis was frantically spinning his wheels repeatedly trying to get unbeached, and never mind that we could all see clearly even on TV that Lewis was moving around fine in the cockpit. Surely Max could see him a lot better than we could at home, walking just a few feet away, no? And never mind that Lewis continued trying to drive the car out as Max walked past. Was Max supposed to walk up to the car Lewis was trying to remove from the gravel? For all that Max knew, from Lewis actions it could be construed he was trying to get unstuck and kill Max. |
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Post by olderguysrule on Sept 17, 2021 1:58:55 GMT -8
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Post by mikey on Sept 17, 2021 2:14:33 GMT -8
I've read the comments on Maxie's and Sir lulu's fiasco since Sunday morning, here and on the internets. Here's my take. The only way this end up well for Max is if Lulu bails. Lulu bailed on the 1st lap or whenever. Does he really think Lulu is gonna bail again? Or that Lulu is gonna bail every time Max forces the issue? Besides their 1st lap think there's been at least a couple of other times this season where max forced the issue and Lulu bailed. And I'm not thinking of their Silverstone crash. On that one Lulu punted Maxie off and got dinged for a meaningless 10 seconds. After Sunday neither scored but It didn't pay off as Maxie got a 3 grid spot dinger. Maxie seems to be racing every race as if it is a stand alone race. It seems to me he's not yet figured out he should be taking the long view. Losing a couple points to Lulu on Sunday was the winner as compared to taking the 3 grid spot dinger in Russia in a couple of weeks. I think of the old Kenny Rogers song, The Gambler. It's like Kenny is singing that song to Maxie. Ya got to know when to hold em. Know when to fold em. And so on. And Every hands a winner, and every hands a loser. The best ya can hope for is to die in your sleep. I posted it in the Stevie Ray Vaughn thread. Listen to the lyrics. The only problem with what you said is Max was going to take a 10 grid spot penalty in Russia anyway due to an engine change after Lulu punted him earlier and it cost an engine, now Max is 13 spots back form wherever he qualifies and will have to work his way thru the field anyway. But as Perez showed last week passing back markers is pretty easy in that car. What Max saved by doing what he did, and no I'm not saying he was thinking about it this way for even a billionth of a second, was that if he got ahead of Lulu then Lulu was playing catchup again and we have seen the Mercedes Wall of experts fail more than once this year. I think Max thought he could stick his nose in there and that the rules said 'you have to leave at least a cars width' so max tried to force Lulu to have to do that giving Max the lead. |
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Sept 17, 2021 2:53:25 GMT -8
I agree with Fernando. Max had nothing to lose, Lewis had everything to lose. Perfect storm. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Sept 17, 2021 7:41:09 GMT -8
Yep. The immediate reaction on Autosport was "Meh, Alonso hates Lewis. Of course he'd say that." Then they were reminded that Alonso also called Silverstone a racing incident. The crickets were deafening. |
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Post by mmi16 on Sept 17, 2021 9:23:53 GMT -8
Yep. The immediate reaction on Autosport was "Meh, Alonso hates Lewis. Of course he'd say that." Then they were reminded that Alonso also called Silverstone a racing incident. The crickets were deafening. We have to look at the FIA as believing there are no such things as 'racing incidents'. Every action that takes place is of punishable intent. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Sept 17, 2021 9:29:44 GMT -8
We have to look at the FIA as believing there are no such things as 'racing incidents'. Every action that takes place is of punishable intent. That is the trend. |
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Post by overboost on Sept 17, 2021 9:30:38 GMT -8
They should put a light on each car controlled by the FIA/stewards. When it is green then passing is permitted. When it is red no passing is permitted.
Simple.
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Post by olderguysrule on Sept 17, 2021 11:00:30 GMT -8
Sir Isaac Newton had this fiasco covered in 1687 when he published his Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica. The laws of motion. Specifically the 3rd law. The third law states that when one object exerts a force on a second object, that second object exerts a force that is equal in magnitude and opposite in direction on the first object. Or in layman's terms for every action there's a equal and opposite reaction.
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA