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Post by Pistola on Jul 20, 2021 21:13:54 GMT -8
Getting way back before the race day debacle. Sprint race and pole position. I understand why they want the Sprint race to set the grid in terms of entertainment but it might work just as well to retain the pole position set with the fastest lap in Friday quali and use the sprint race to set the rest of grid on Saturday. Or would that be a copycat for F1?
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Post by mikey on Jul 21, 2021 2:54:04 GMT -8
Getting way back before the race day debacle. Sprint race and pole position. I understand why they want the Sprint race to set the grid in terms of entertainment but it might work just as well to retain the pole position set with the fastest lap in Friday quali and use the sprint race to set the rest of grid on Saturday. Or would that be a copycat for F1? Wouldn't that mean that the car who's on pole just tools around like a Sunday drive for the 'Sprint'? I think the idea of a 'Sprint' turned into a race and that was a good thing for the fans as they got to watch a 'race' on Saturday and then another 'race' on Sunday, I also think the teams despite all their trepidations and bad mouthing the idea got into it and made the best of the thing. Now obviously Red Bull won't like it because Checko ended up starting last on Sunday but Max did show he could pull away from the Merc's just like they did when Vettel was driving and he pulled a gap on the faster Ferrari's, the Red Bulls just out twisty bits every other car. |
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Post by pushtopass on Jul 21, 2021 4:18:56 GMT -8
Getting way back before the race day debacle. Sprint race and pole position. I understand why they want the Sprint race to set the grid in terms of entertainment but it might work just as well to retain the pole position set with the fastest lap in Friday quali and use the sprint race to set the rest of grid on Saturday. Or would that be a copycat for F1? Wouldn't that mean that the car who's on pole just tools around like a Sunday drive for the 'Sprint'? I think the idea of a 'Sprint' turned into a race and that was a good thing for the fans as they got to watch a 'race' on Saturday and then another 'race' on Sunday, I also think the teams despite all their trepidations and bad mouthing the idea got into it and made the best of the thing. Now obviously Red Bull won't like it because Checko ended up starting last on Sunday but Max did show he could pull away from the Merc's just like they did when Vettel was driving and he pulled a gap on the faster Ferrari's, the Red Bulls just out twisty bits every other car. The points potential would probably keep the pole sitter interested in the race. Depending on who it is, though, and at what point in the season. |
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Jul 21, 2021 4:53:34 GMT -8
Wouldn't that mean that the car who's on pole just tools around like a Sunday drive for the 'Sprint'? I think the idea of a 'Sprint' turned into a race and that was a good thing for the fans as they got to watch a 'race' on Saturday and then another 'race' on Sunday, I also think the teams despite all their trepidations and bad mouthing the idea got into it and made the best of the thing. Now obviously Red Bull won't like it because Checko ended up starting last on Sunday but Max did show he could pull away from the Merc's just like they did when Vettel was driving and he pulled a gap on the faster Ferrari's, the Red Bulls just out twisty bits every other car. The points potential would probably keep the pole sitter interested in the race. Depending on who it is, though, and at what point in the season. It's a better prognosticator on tire wear than practice is, IMO. |
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Post by Pistola on Jul 21, 2021 6:15:58 GMT -8
Getting way back before the race day debacle. Sprint race and pole position. I understand why they want the Sprint race to set the grid in terms of entertainment but it might work just as well to retain the pole position set with the fastest lap in Friday quali and use the sprint race to set the rest of grid on Saturday. Or would that be a copycat for F1? Wouldn't that mean that the car who's on pole just tools around like a Sunday drive for the 'Sprint'? I think the idea of a 'Sprint' turned into a race and that was a good thing for the fans as they got to watch a 'race' on Saturday and then another 'race' on Sunday, I also think the teams despite all their trepidations and bad mouthing the idea got into it and made the best of the thing. Now obviously Red Bull won't like it because Checko ended up starting last on Sunday but Max did show he could pull away from the Merc's just like they did when Vettel was driving and he pulled a gap on the faster Ferrari's, the Red Bulls just out twisty bits every other car. No, what it means is the fastest lap gets pole position which is what "pole" is all about. If you want more meaning in the sprint race challenge the drivers to beat the Friday time for pole. |
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Post by pushtopass on Jul 21, 2021 10:53:50 GMT -8
This is what I was talking about regarding RB's claim that Hamilton wouldn't have made the corner. You recall that Hamilton came from behind so he was going faster than Max to get nearly even (first picture). But as you see in the second picture of the tweet, Hamilton has slowed more than Max. So at that point Hamilton was entering the corner at a lower speed than Max was. So how they can claim he wouldn't have made the corner but Max would have, I am not sure (yes, Max has a slightly better line but also cannot clip the apex with Hamilton inside of him anyway). Just FYI. I am curious what they will present. www.planetf1.com/news/jolyon-palmer-season-defining-not-cynical/ |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 21, 2021 11:41:40 GMT -8
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 21, 2021 12:46:13 GMT -8
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Post by olderguysrule on Jul 21, 2021 16:23:31 GMT -8
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Post by mmi16 on Jul 21, 2021 18:49:09 GMT -8
Did Ferrari figure they would need less fuel to run 5th or 6th than they actually used in a attempt to win? |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jul 22, 2021 8:30:43 GMT -8
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Post by pushtopass on Jul 22, 2021 8:53:18 GMT -8
I like that we can hear these radio calls now, though! |
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Post by jfme on Jul 22, 2021 12:08:26 GMT -8
Wow. After all these years, finally Hamilton's fathers will not be allowed to supervise his penalties...LOL |
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Post by Boomer on Jul 22, 2021 13:08:01 GMT -8
^ And to think that Ferrari (and not Mercedes) are reviled by many as having too much 'political' power within F1...  |
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Post by overboost on Jul 22, 2021 14:12:15 GMT -8
Wow. After all these years, finally Hamilton's fathers will not be allowed to supervise his penalties...LOL Always remember poor Davey Ryan. |
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Post by mmi16 on Jul 22, 2021 19:11:36 GMT -8
Wow. After all these years, finally Hamilton's fathers will not be allowed to supervise his penalties...LOL Always remember poor Davey Ryan. Who? Why? |
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Post by Pistola on Jul 23, 2021 15:56:22 GMT -8
My heart is broken and bleeding to see this happen to RB.
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Post by Boomer on Jul 23, 2021 16:15:58 GMT -8
My heart is broken and bleeding to see this happen to RB. That would be: 0.000069% of Dieter Mateschitz' wealth?  |
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Post by jmjgt on Jul 23, 2021 17:32:13 GMT -8
^And he's less than 50% of the company.
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Post by mikey on Jul 23, 2021 19:10:08 GMT -8
My heart is broken and bleeding to see this happen to RB. That would be: 0.000069% of Dieter Mateschitz' wealth? I don't think the money is the actual problem just that each Team is limited in how much they can spend and now with this money going towards accident repairs it means less money towards upgrades. Maybe that's a thing the FIA can take up later on with a goal a way of finding a way to ensure it's repaired to exactly the way it was pre-accident coming out of non controlled money. |
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA