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Post by Pistola on Apr 30, 2021 11:23:48 GMT -8
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Post by mmi16 on Apr 30, 2021 12:51:24 GMT -8
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Post by Pistola on Apr 30, 2021 13:07:04 GMT -8
^Google translate is your friend.
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Post by jmjgt on Apr 30, 2021 13:26:26 GMT -8
35 laps eliminated in PF1, 30 in FP2. |
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Post by mmi16 on Apr 30, 2021 18:13:50 GMT -8
35 laps eliminated in PF1, 30 in FP2. Might as well eliminate them all. |
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Post by boomer on Apr 30, 2021 21:15:35 GMT -8
Maybe the whole FP thang should be scrapped as a waste of time?  |
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Post by jfme on May 1, 2021 4:51:52 GMT -8
With all existing technology not sure why they dont put gps tracker on cars to set track limits and call it done. Instead we have some old fart has-beens analyze via committee if a driver must be penalized for going off-track based on his nationality, looks and congeniality In the future Zak Brown's secret ballot will be used to determine track limits violations. GPS isn't accurate enough but the bottom line is no matter what system is used it would still have to be monitored to eliminate instances where the driver was forced off the track, left the track avoiding an incident, etc. Well, recognition cameras, sensors, etc. My point is these subjective rule enforcing makes the sport a joke. You know when its time to decide a win or championship because a driver went off track they will turn a blind eye and someone will get screwed. |
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Post by overboost on May 1, 2021 5:41:25 GMT -8
In battlebots they have a big hammer.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 6:11:44 GMT -8
In the future Zak Brown's secret ballot will be used to determine track limits violations. GPS isn't accurate enough but the bottom line is no matter what system is used it would still have to be monitored to eliminate instances where the driver was forced off the track, left the track avoiding an incident, etc. Well, recognition cameras, sensors, etc. My point is these subjective rule enforcing makes the sport a joke. You know when its time to decide a win or championship because a driver went off track they will turn a blind eye and someone will get screwed. This is why a few of us keep insisting that the track enforce it's own boundries. |
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Post by mmi16 on May 1, 2021 7:15:03 GMT -8
MB 1-2 Ho Hum
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Post by mmi16 on May 1, 2021 7:15:45 GMT -8
In battlebots they have a big hammer. The also have 'the screws'! |
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Post by Pistola on May 1, 2021 7:21:34 GMT -8
Well, recognition cameras, sensors, etc. My point is these subjective rule enforcing makes the sport a joke. You know when its time to decide a win or championship because a driver went off track they will turn a blind eye and someone will get screwed. This is why a few of us keep insisting that the track enforce it's own boundries. I'm a little disappointed you guys haven't gotten out there and fixed it by now.  |
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Post by pushtopass on May 1, 2021 8:07:50 GMT -8
This is why a few of us keep insisting that the track enforce it's own boundries. I'm a little disappointed you guys haven't gotten out there and fixed it by now. And again, Max shows us why teams don't want it. He lost the rear end in 4, had to counter steer, which pushed him wide. Are you telling me you want to see Max out of qualifying because he hit the wall on a gusty, unpredictable track? I can guarantee that Red Bull does not want that and are happy he is starting in 3rd instead of 10th and they do not have to spend the night rebuilding his car. Face it; it ain't gonna happen. |
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Post by pushtopass on May 1, 2021 8:08:12 GMT -8
Go Vettel! :-)
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Post by mmi16 on May 1, 2021 10:56:16 GMT -8
I'm a little disappointed you guys haven't gotten out there and fixed it by now. And again, Max shows us why teams don't want it. He lost the rear end in 4, had to counter steer, which pushed him wide. Are you telling me you want to see Max out of qualifying because he hit the wall on a gusty, unpredictable track? I can guarantee that Red Bull does not want that and are happy he is starting in 3rd instead of 10th and they do not have to spend the night rebuilding his car. Face it; it ain't gonna happen. Yes - track limits have more consequence than deleted times - track limits enforce deleted sessions or deleted races. Truth be told - the first white line is the track limit - and everyone violates that on every turn, every lap. Park them all! If you have paved it - drivers will use it. |
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Post by pushtopass on May 1, 2021 11:09:53 GMT -8
And again, Max shows us why teams don't want it. He lost the rear end in 4, had to counter steer, which pushed him wide. Are you telling me you want to see Max out of qualifying because he hit the wall on a gusty, unpredictable track? I can guarantee that Red Bull does not want that and are happy he is starting in 3rd instead of 10th and they do not have to spend the night rebuilding his car. Face it; it ain't gonna happen. Yes - track limits have more consequence than deleted times - track limits enforce deleted sessions or deleted races. Truth be told - the first white line is the track limit - and everyone violates that on every turn, every lap. Park them all! If you have paved it - drivers will use it. What is the advantage to F1 to have cars destroyed? Why do you think it is wrong to set track limits other than where you think they should be? I just don't get the militancy here. It is what it is; relax. |
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Post by Red_Hercules on May 1, 2021 12:04:05 GMT -8
And again, Max shows us why teams don't want it. He lost the rear end in 4, had to counter steer, which pushed him wide. Are you telling me you want to see Max out of qualifying because he hit the wall on a gusty, unpredictable track? I can guarantee that Red Bull does not want that and are happy he is starting in 3rd instead of 10th and they do not have to spend the night rebuilding his car. Face it; it ain't gonna happen. To answer your specific question about Max: YES. You make mistakes, you pay the price. But everyone should be treated the same. |
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Post by mmi16 on May 1, 2021 12:07:56 GMT -8
Yes - track limits have more consequence than deleted times - track limits enforce deleted sessions or deleted races. Truth be told - the first white line is the track limit - and everyone violates that on every turn, every lap. Park them all! If you have paved it - drivers will use it. What is the advantage to F1 to have cars destroyed? Why do you think it is wrong to set track limits other than where you think they should be? I just don't get the militancy here. It is what it is; relax. It takes RESPECT of the track away from the driver. Why are tracks such as the Monaco respected - you get it right or you fix it. While taking it 'to the limit' can be rewarding - exceeding the limit is disastrous. |
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Post by mmi16 on May 1, 2021 12:09:29 GMT -8
And again, Max shows us why teams don't want it. He lost the rear end in 4, had to counter steer, which pushed him wide. Are you telling me you want to see Max out of qualifying because he hit the wall on a gusty, unpredictable track? I can guarantee that Red Bull does not want that and are happy he is starting in 3rd instead of 10th and they do not have to spend the night rebuilding his car. Face it; it ain't gonna happen. To answer your specific question about Max: YES. You make mistakes, you pay the price. But everyone should be treated the same. It makes mistakes trivial. Mistakes in a race car at the F1 level should not be trivial. |
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Post by Sabrina81 on May 1, 2021 12:10:23 GMT -8
Will Bottas and his new mindset get taken out by Hambone?
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
Jul 12, 2024 22:05:14 GMT -8
Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
Jul 12, 2024 22:05:14 GMT -8