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Post by mmi16 on Oct 11, 2020 4:39:35 GMT -8
Where Russel's car was I didn't see any reason for a VSC
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 4:39:50 GMT -8
It is just a bad dream.
Go back to sleep.
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Post by mmi16 on Oct 11, 2020 4:41:08 GMT -8
Bottas gerbil is dying
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Post by Sabrina81 on Oct 11, 2020 4:43:06 GMT -8
Bottas :(
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Post by olderguysrule on Oct 11, 2020 4:43:29 GMT -8
bye bye bottax
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Post by mmi16 on Oct 11, 2020 5:24:06 GMT -8
Safety car for Norris retirement
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Post by mmi16 on Oct 11, 2020 5:28:23 GMT -8
FIA knows how to manufacture a cluster F
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Post by pushtopass on Oct 11, 2020 5:29:50 GMT -8
This will spice things up! Maybe they should spray some water on the track, too!
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Post by Sabrina81 on Oct 11, 2020 5:32:11 GMT -8
LOL send help.
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Post by Sabrina81 on Oct 11, 2020 5:32:59 GMT -8
Ban DAS.
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Post by mmi16 on Oct 11, 2020 5:42:00 GMT -8
'Penalizing' by eliminating lap time when track limits are exceeded during the race is BS. If track limits are to mean anything, eliminate the lap from the cars lap count. Exceeding track limits is running into the tracks virtual wall - walls create damage, more damage than just having a lap time stricken from the car's record.
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Post by safetycar on Oct 11, 2020 8:50:19 GMT -8
I had forgotten how much I like this track. It's fun to watch on this one. And I am happy for Ricciardo.
I must admit, I never thought anybody would tie or beat Michael's record. Strange.
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Post by Sabrina81 on Oct 11, 2020 10:07:32 GMT -8
Ric on podium = good. Lando in a lawn chair - shades of Lolonso.
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Post by Red_Hercules on Oct 11, 2020 11:03:52 GMT -8
I had forgotten how much I like this track. It's fun to watch on this one. And I am happy for Ricciardo. I must admit, I never thought anybody would tie or beat Michael's record. Strange. It's a bad dream. No one has equaled Schumacher's record yet. And Michael is OK. |
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Post by wayfast on Oct 11, 2020 15:48:19 GMT -8
Mick gave Lewis a helmet that Michael wore during his MB years. Toto probably had to get it out of the trophy case.
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Post by mikey on Oct 11, 2020 17:08:34 GMT -8
'Penalizing' by eliminating lap time when track limits are exceeded during the race is BS. If track limits are to mean anything, eliminate the lap from the cars lap count. Exceeding track limits is running into the tracks virtual wall - walls create damage, more damage than just having a lap time stricken from the car's record. I'm not sure I'm with you on being that extreme but do think the guys figured out waaaay too early in the race that running waaaay wide in turn 1 and then coming back in front of someone else was okay. I know they have a certain number of allowable excursions but think they should reduce that by at least half! Then refer then to the Stewards for post race penalties or take Team points away or even next race penalties if they don't want to wait on the podium announcements. AND deleting laptimes during the race is just plain stupid UNLESS they also remove the lap from the total count!!! Laptimes during the race are meaningless for 19 out of 20 of the drivers!! |
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Post by mmi16 on Oct 11, 2020 18:57:04 GMT -8
'Penalizing' by eliminating lap time when track limits are exceeded during the race is BS. If track limits are to mean anything, eliminate the lap from the cars lap count. Exceeding track limits is running into the tracks virtual wall - walls create damage, more damage than just having a lap time stricken from the car's record. I'm not sure I'm with you on being that extreme but do think the guys figured out waaaay too early in the race that running waaaay wide in turn 1 and then coming back in front of someone else was okay. I know they have a certain number of allowable excursions but think they should reduce that by at least half! Then refer then to the Stewards for post race penalties or take Team points away or even next race penalties if they don't want to wait on the podium announcements. AND deleting laptimes during the race is just plain stupid UNLESS they also remove the lap from the total count!!! Laptimes during the race are meaningless for 19 out of 20 of the drivers!! For 19 of 20 of the drivers and for only one lap out of all the laps that were driven in the race. Such a penalty is no penalty at all. If violation of track limits is not draconian penalty - why even have track limits. Track limits should never be some official making a call about crossing some painted line. Track limits should be self enforcing - gravel trap, grass boarder, sausage curbs, maybe even a paved shoulder that has water running over it. I'm not trying to wreck cars, just make the course imposed time/loss of control penalty sufficient to make the drivers believe that exceeding track limits is not the best option to improve their lap times or to make a pass. For the most part NASCAR has track limits right - if the wall was not moved off its foundation, track limits were not exceeded. I am acutely aware of the difference between NASCAR taxi's and F1 cars and for that matter the various forms of sports cars. In my form of racing, with the suspension my car has - FIA curbing tends to be a no go zone for how it upsets the stability of the car. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Oct 11, 2020 20:37:47 GMT -8
'Penalizing' by eliminating lap time when track limits are exceeded during the race is BS. If track limits are to mean anything, eliminate the lap from the cars lap count. Exceeding track limits is running into the tracks virtual wall - walls create damage, more damage than just having a lap time stricken from the car's record. I'm not sure I'm with you on being that extreme but do think the guys figured out waaaay too early in the race that running waaaay wide in turn 1 and then coming back in front of someone else was okay. I know they have a certain number of allowable excursions but think they should reduce that by at least half! Then refer then to the Stewards for post race penalties or take Team points away or even next race penalties if they don't want to wait on the podium announcements. AND deleting laptimes during the race is just plain stupid UNLESS they also remove the lap from the total count!!! Laptimes during the race are meaningless for 19 out of 20 of the drivers!! No matter what the number is, they shouldn't be able to use one of those excursions to complete an overtake, which is exactly what I saw several times at T1. Leclerc did it 2 laps in a row. Ridiculous. Same goes for going wide while defending. They should have to give up that position just as attacking drivers should have to give back a position gained by going wide. |
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Post by jmjgt on Oct 11, 2020 21:42:58 GMT -8
I'm not sure I'm with you on being that extreme but do think the guys figured out waaaay too early in the race that running waaaay wide in turn 1 and then coming back in front of someone else was okay. I know they have a certain number of allowable excursions but think they should reduce that by at least half! Then refer then to the Stewards for post race penalties or take Team points away or even next race penalties if they don't want to wait on the podium announcements. AND deleting laptimes during the race is just plain stupid UNLESS they also remove the lap from the total count!!! Laptimes during the race are meaningless for 19 out of 20 of the drivers!! No matter what the number is, they shouldn't be able to use one of those excursions to complete an overtake, which is exactly what I saw several times at T1. Leclerc did it 2 laps in a row. Ridiculous. Same goes for going wide while defending. They should have to give up that position just as attacking drivers should have to give back a position gained by going wide. The problem with the exit of turn one is it's part of a piece of track that by-passes the turns 2, 3 and 4 so there won't be any gravel traps or grass placed there. Nor do i think they'll install high curbs. That's a relatively safe part of track so the best solution would be some well placed "jersey barriers" about a meter outside of track limits. The drivers would still have a little leeway to gather a sliding car up a bit but they would not be allowed the liberties they have now. That will however pretty much take away most of the overtakes down there. |
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Post by Placid on Oct 11, 2020 22:32:59 GMT -8
Congrats on Kimi Raikkonen for being the Ironman of Formula 1. Not a way to end his day with a 10 second penalty. Let also hope for 100 next year for Lewis.  |
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
Jul 12, 2024 22:05:14 GMT -8
Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
Jul 12, 2024 22:05:14 GMT -8