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Post by Carlo_Carrera on May 26, 2018 10:38:22 GMT -8
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Post by mmi16 on May 26, 2018 10:46:34 GMT -8
and then the bitching will really start!
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Post by loudpedal on May 26, 2018 13:30:48 GMT -8
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on May 26, 2018 16:33:11 GMT -8
Chalk up another win for Brawn.
I also get the feeling Mercedes as a factory team is leaving, but they will still supply engines.
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Post by olderguysrule on May 27, 2018 10:47:29 GMT -8
It won't be as simple as removing the mgu-h. I read a few months back that they figure to build a totally new V-6. They'll spend hundreds of millions on that. the teams that buy the things will pay thru the nose. when, at the same time the money is going to start to go away.
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Post by jmjgt on May 27, 2018 11:04:21 GMT -8
It won't be as simple as removing the mgu-h. I read a few months back that they figure to build a totally new V-6. They'll spend hundreds of millions on that. the teams that buy the things will pay thru the nose. when, at the same time the money is going to start to go away. What the factories were saying back then was they'd need to have two separate development programs going at once, one to run the 2020 spec, one to get the 2021 unit ready and that was going to cost them big bucks. Renault pretty much killed that argument by suggesting the current spec should be frozen after this year.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on May 30, 2018 9:34:59 GMT -8
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Post by loudpedal on May 30, 2018 9:51:33 GMT -8
I've said for years that active suspension is a hundred times more road relevant than fiddly little aero bits and 13" wheels. Lots of road cars actually have active suspension.
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Post by jmjgt on Jun 1, 2018 18:38:01 GMT -8
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Post by mmi16 on Jun 2, 2018 5:51:34 GMT -8
Only YOU can prevent double spending!
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Post by jmjgt on Jun 4, 2018 5:31:14 GMT -8
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Post by struns on Jun 5, 2018 17:52:48 GMT -8
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Post by loudpedal on Jun 5, 2018 18:52:05 GMT -8
^The wings are going to be smaller starting next year.
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Post by gturner38 on Jun 7, 2018 18:51:37 GMT -8
That's not what an 18 wheel will look like.
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Post by struns on Jun 8, 2018 4:56:22 GMT -8
That's not what an 18 wheel will look like. That was a joke... "Nudge Nudge...say no more"
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Post by mmi16 on Jun 11, 2018 18:44:22 GMT -8
Since they are still on a cost saving kick for 2021 - One engine should be good for the year - weight your update vs grid position penalties. Everyonw will get penalized from time to time.
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Post by Zytes on Jun 12, 2018 14:35:02 GMT -8
TECH TUESDAY: Examining the 2019 F1 rule changes to boost overtaking (With a spiffy video)"Closer racing and more overtaking – these were the key targets as rule changes for the 2019 season were announced. In a video produced by our tech team of Giorgio Piola and Mark Hughes, we explain the major revisions aimed at spicing up the racing in 2019... Details spoiler(d) to save space... Unity amongst all parties is not always forthcoming in a sport as competitive as Formula 1, but when it comes to future regulations, everyone from the fans, to the FIA, to F1, to the teams and drivers is united in a belief that delivering closer competition and more passing must be priorities.
These considerations are a key factor as the FIA, in collaboration with a Pat Symonds-led aero team at F1, continue work on shaping the technical regulations for 2021. But we don’t have to wait another three years to see the first fruits of that research. In fact, the initial developments will arrive much sooner, with a number of significant aero changes being introduced next season to spice up the racing.
These are shown in detail in the video above, but in summary the changes are:
A simplified front wing with standardised endplates, tweaked dimensions and no upper flaps. This will encourage aerodynamicists to direct more of the flow to the underbody (where it is less sensitive to the disturbed wake of the car in front) than the outer body
The deletion of the upper flaps at the outer ends of the wing will make it impossible to create the vortices that are generated by the current, highly complex endplates to enhance the outer-body aerodynamics. This will further encourage the so-called ‘inwash’ aero philosophy of directing airflow to the underbody, rather than the current emphasis on ‘outwash,’ which is highly sensitive to the air from the car ahead and therefore makes it harder for cars to follow one another closely
Tweaks to the front wing’s dimensions and the limiting of under-wing strakes to two each side to further discourage outwash aerodynamics
Winglets mounted on the brake ducts currently play a part in directing the flow to the outer part of the body. These are banned from 2019, as are blown axles, which currently use air directed out of the centre of the wheel at high speed to energise the flow down the outer surfaces of the bodywork further back
Barge boards are lowered by 150mm (to make them less powerful in directing the airflow) and moved forwards by 100mm to make them less sensitive to the airflow being disturbed from the car in front
The rear wing endplates will no longer be permitted to have horizontal gills. These equalize the pressure between the inner and outer faces of the endplate to give a faster flow over the top of the wing for more downforce, but they introduce an extra disturbance to the wake, which worsens the performance of the car behind
The DRS opening will be increased from 65mm to 85mm. Together with an increase in width and height of the wing, this will make the DRS around 25-30% more powerful so as to allow it to be effective on those circuits with too short a straight for the current system. The FIA will also review the length of DRS zones at every circuit in order to maximise the effect of the changes The increased height of the wing will take the 'rooster tail' wake coming off the back of it higher into the air than currently. More of the energy from that wake will be diffused into the free air around it before it returns to the level where it will be affecting the following car
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Post by mmi16 on Jun 12, 2018 16:45:12 GMT -8
Giorgio Piola is an absolute MASTER in informative technical drawings.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jun 25, 2018 9:06:48 GMT -8
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jun 26, 2018 11:58:00 GMT -8
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