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Post by wilmywood8455 on Feb 19, 2020 14:34:13 GMT -8
To me the McLaren and Renault are also looking a bit Mercedes-ish. That would only be smart, IMO. It's the gold standard of the series at the moment. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Feb 19, 2020 14:43:20 GMT -8
Saw the last part of an interview with Guenther Steiner, he was at the lunch tables area, and he was talking about it and if they need to lodge a protest or not, said their high res pictures would show if Racing Point are copying Mercedes or colluding with them. He talked about Hass copying Ferrari last year and said 'why not they were better than we were'. The entirety of motorsports is a copy cat deal. Someone thinks up 'something' - if it works, everybody copies it. Copying isn't a problem, to me. My question is: How do you 'copy' another team's (seemingly entire) car from the previous year and actually make it work? I'm guessing the answer is that you simply don't ... without help. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Feb 19, 2020 16:17:00 GMT -8
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Post by Sabrina81 on Feb 19, 2020 16:48:26 GMT -8
Saw the last part of an interview with Guenther Steiner, he was at the lunch tables area, and he was talking about it and if they need to lodge a protest or not, said their high res pictures would show if Racing Point are copying Mercedes or colluding with them. He talked about Hass copying Ferrari last year and said 'why not they were better than we were'. The entirety of motorsports is a copy cat deal. Someone thinks up 'something' - if it works, everybody copies it. Except FSAE which is a giant shit show. |
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Post by Sabrina81 on Feb 19, 2020 16:50:11 GMT -8
The entirety of motorsports is a copy cat deal. Someone thinks up 'something' - if it works, everybody copies it. Copying isn't a problem, to me. My question is: How do you 'copy' another team's (seemingly entire) car from the previous year and actually make it work? I'm guessing the answer is that you simply don't ... without help. I think you either steal the talent or pay them under the table with the intent to hire. I think I'm bored enough we should revisit when Mclaren literally stole Ferrari's design. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Feb 19, 2020 17:01:53 GMT -8
Copying isn't a problem, to me. My question is: How do you 'copy' another team's (seemingly entire) car from the previous year and actually make it work? I'm guessing the answer is that you simply don't ... without help. I think you either steal the talent or pay them under the table with the intent to hire. I think I'm bored enough we should revisit when Mclaren literally stole Ferrari's design. I think in this case (speculating, of course), that it's more like Merc helping RP. But who knows... |
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Post by olderguysrule on Feb 19, 2020 19:04:28 GMT -8
Copying isn't a problem, to me. My question is: How do you 'copy' another team's (seemingly entire) car from the previous year and actually make it work? I'm guessing the answer is that you simply don't ... without help. I think you either steal the talent or pay them under the table with the intent to hire. I think I'm bored enough we should revisit when Mclaren literally stole Ferrari's design. Sabrina, look at the F1/GP history thread. My post @90 from a week or so back. A 20 minute clip on the whole sordid affair. :-) As for the pink cars. They now have the merc nose on their cars. I doubt that it will help them a lot. If the nose was the trick, everybody would have copied it 5 or 6 years back. as they're the only car that hasn't had ugly things on the end of their car's nose since the turbo era started. :-) |
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Post by mmi16 on Feb 19, 2020 20:19:40 GMT -8
F1 is the land of intellectual property whores. Between designers and technicians 'chasing the Euro' intellectual property moves around the industry despite the 'gardening leave' that gets mandated for some.
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Post by mmi16 on Feb 19, 2020 20:23:33 GMT -8
The entirety of motorsports is a copy cat deal. Someone thinks up 'something' - if it works, everybody copies it. Except FSAE which is a giant shit show. FSAE is college kids enrolled in engineering courses - not necessarily automotive in nature - given broad requirements in building a competition vehicle to be taken to a competition with other college teams and see who's vehicle is 'best' when judged from a number of viewpoints, not just head to head competition against a stop watch. |
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Post by Sabrina81 on Feb 19, 2020 23:44:31 GMT -8
Except FSAE which is a giant shit show. FSAE is college kids enrolled in engineering courses - not necessarily automotive in nature - given broad requirements in building a competition vehicle to be taken to a competition with other college teams and see who's vehicle is 'best' when judged from a number of viewpoints, not just head to head competition against a stop watch. I am well aware of what they do and how they compete. ;) |
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Post by olderguysrule on Feb 20, 2020 4:14:30 GMT -8
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Post by montybriscoe on Feb 20, 2020 5:04:30 GMT -8
FSAE is college kids enrolled in engineering courses - not necessarily automotive in nature - given broad requirements in building a competition vehicle to be taken to a competition with other college teams and see who's vehicle is 'best' when judged from a number of viewpoints, not just head to head competition against a stop watch. I am well aware of what they do and how they compete. ;) My company can hook you with some free pumps for your FSAE program. We donate freebies to schools all over the US and Europe. |
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Post by struns on Feb 20, 2020 5:53:25 GMT -8
FSAE is college kids enrolled in engineering courses - not necessarily automotive in nature - given broad requirements in building a competition vehicle to be taken to a competition with other college teams and see who's vehicle is 'best' when judged from a number of viewpoints, not just head to head competition against a stop watch. I am well aware of what they do and how they compete. ;)  Explaining FSAE to Sabrina.....Now that's funny right there.
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Post by mmi16 on Feb 20, 2020 6:25:54 GMT -8
I am well aware of what they do and how they compete. ;)
'splaing it to you Ricky! |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Feb 20, 2020 7:09:38 GMT -8
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Post by struns on Feb 20, 2020 7:26:21 GMT -8
Explaining FSAE to Sabrina.....Now that's funny right there.
'splaing it to you Ricky! At least you're consistent at making no sense. |
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Post by racerman967 on Feb 20, 2020 7:49:24 GMT -8
Agreed, how this can not be deemed a " movable aero device" or mechanical driver aid would be crazy. That change could also adjust ride height. we are closing back in on the 92 Williams with borderline active suspension. |
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Post by Pistola on Feb 20, 2020 7:56:23 GMT -8
Last year there was some discussion over trick suspensions that allowed the ride height to change while cornering. Is this any different? Ross Brawn will be along to explain how this won't be allowed next year. |
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Post by jmjgt on Feb 20, 2020 8:20:58 GMT -8
Merc is calling it duel axis steering, seems to me they're trying to separate it's function from having anything to do with changing "suspension" settings by labeling it as a purely steering adjustment. I can see Brawn writing a few new chapters in the regs to get this banned ASAP before the bitching and spending starts.
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Post by Red_Hercules on Feb 20, 2020 8:38:05 GMT -8
Been on lots of forums already this morning where the Mercedes fanboys insist that the device is legal.
Also, everyone else says that Mercedes already have this season in the bag.
Sad.
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
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