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Post by montybriscoe on Oct 2, 2019 10:17:14 GMT -8
I am all for making racing safer but oh my God, that thing is hideous. It has ruined the entire look of the car. Ugly.
I was sort of cringing, initially, at the halo in F1. However, I have warmed up to it and it definitely looks better than that contraption on the Indy Car. I don't think I will ever warm up to it.
IMO, Indy Car should have waited to implement this on the next new car instead of shoe horning on this current one.
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Post by Spin on Oct 2, 2019 12:46:47 GMT -8
They're getting further and further away from their open wheel roots. There is an element of risk/reward to racing cars, and moreso an open wheel car. Open wheels, open cockpit, insane speeds. Any driver who has any racing experience knows the risks involved with open wheel racing. And the rewards. If he can get a ride in OWR, he can get a ride in a full body car. There's a lot more options in full body racing.
Drivers aren't stupid. They're half crazy, but they know what's up. You don't jump out of a healthy airplane, go shark hunting, ride a motorcycle in traffic, visit a married woman without knowing the obvious risks.
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Post by montybriscoe on Oct 2, 2019 14:40:44 GMT -8
I agree that these guys know what they signed up for. If they don't, they need to reevaluate what they are doing. You remove the risk, where is the thrill?
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Post by Spin on Oct 3, 2019 2:23:58 GMT -8
Another thought, they always talk to the veteran drivers about safety issues. Driver's values change as they age, just like the rest of us. Males mature at 43 years old. Think about that a minute. Drivers have been through major accidents by that age. Testosterone levels drop (which probably goes hand in hand with maturity). This makes risk taking less exciting. They look at their wife and kids and say "I have to be there for them". They also lose endurance, heat resistance, strength, and have to work harder to maintain those. Injuries to other drivers affect them differently. I met my idol Tony Stewart yesterday, and looking at his career, he still drives sprint cars, but they're winged now. Not the non-wing USAC sprints/midgets he grew up in. In an accident, the wing absorbs a lot of the impact. And the cars don't barrel roll like non-wing. Food for thought. I hope I'm not beating anyone over the head, I'm just sharing some of the (very expensive) training I have, and personal experiences as I got older (including a recent career change). I'm not always the most gracious debater but in this case it's all about looking at why veteran drivers think the way they do now.
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Post by Power Fan79 on Oct 3, 2019 8:44:33 GMT -8
The thing is ugly as sin and I’m all for driver safety. That being said, if that’s the direction they want to go, it’s their asses on the line and not mine. However, I think the look is an embarrassment and I will not be supporting the series like I used to because it’s going away from what I think it should be. I’ll stick to Moto GP. It’s one thing to want to avoid certain tracks but this is becoming a laughing stock.
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Post by montybriscoe on Oct 3, 2019 13:50:17 GMT -8
The thing is ugly as sin and I’m all for driver safety. That being said, if that’s the direction they want to go, it’s their asses on the line and not mine. However, I think the look is an embarrassment and I will not be supporting the series like I used to because it’s going away from what I think it should be. I’ll stick to Moto GP. It’s one thing to want to avoid certain tracks but this is becoming a laughing stock. It is an issue with today's society. People can't accept racing drivers getting killed even though they all know racing is a risky business. Drivers get married, they have kids, now their priorities change. So, a lot of them push for this because they think it will make them safe and justify what they are doing to their families. Perhaps, prolong their careers a little longer. I mean, if they have concerns about leaving their families on their own or not seeing their kids grow up, then they should retire.
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Post by mmi16 on Oct 3, 2019 14:42:37 GMT -8
I am wondering what the visibility will be at lap 190 at Indy after being in traffic most of the race and being on the receiving end of the fluids that get lost during the race as well as the impact smears of all the rubber debris that gets thrown up during the race.
I am also wondering how the visibility will be when there is rain on road courses. Rain is one thing, mud and slop thrown up by a preceding car onto the RBT Screen. When that happens at present a driver can use his fingers and hands to clear his helmet visor, that will not be possible with the RBT Screen, as it is presently configured.
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Post by montybriscoe on Oct 3, 2019 15:40:13 GMT -8
Hey, they will install a wiper....then they will put fenders on....then you will have an LMP1 or hyper car.
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Pretty well effed up.
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Post by turn8 on Oct 26, 2019 8:55:42 GMT -8
If that thing had been on Justin Wilson's car, he would be alive today. I don't give a GOD DAMN what it looks like.
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Post by mmi16 on Oct 27, 2019 5:11:30 GMT -8
If that thing had been on Justin Wilson's car, he would be alive today. I don't give a GOD DAMN what it looks like. I am not so sure this screen would have protected Wilson. Video's I have seen show the debris that hit Wilson coming straight down to strike the top of the helmet. I could be wrong.
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Post by Power Fan79 on Oct 27, 2019 14:52:56 GMT -8
If that thing had been on Justin Wilson's car, he would be alive today. I don't give a GOD DAMN what it looks like. I am not so sure this screen would have protected Wilson. Video's I have seen show the debris that hit Wilson coming straight down to strike the top of the helmet. I could be wrong. I agree.
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