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Post by loudpedal on Aug 19, 2019 6:11:48 GMT -8
I'm a bit skeptical on this, but it sounds fairly legit.
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Post by racerman967 on Aug 19, 2019 8:15:30 GMT -8
I think Vettel returns to Red Bull and Alonso goes back to Ferrari. Alonso will be mediocre at best and get crushed by LeClerc
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Aug 19, 2019 9:07:49 GMT -8
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Post by loudpedal on Aug 19, 2019 9:23:31 GMT -8
Like I said, I'm a skeptic, if for no other reason than the P/U. Pretty sure that Honda would not want Fred.
No doubt there are plenty others.
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Post by Pistola on Aug 19, 2019 11:11:19 GMT -8
I think Fred's planning on being a long haul trucker.
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Post by montybriscoe on Aug 19, 2019 13:52:50 GMT -8
I'm a bit skeptical on this, but it sounds fairly legit.
Honda wants nothing to do with Alonso. GP2 engine comparison hasn't been forgotten.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 14:16:45 GMT -8
Honda have the memory of an Elephant
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Post by Pistola on Aug 19, 2019 14:43:04 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 15:01:28 GMT -8
Great! I was wanting to get a decent bike to race about town in the early mornings, before traffic becomes hazardous. The price it's right in my range too? Make mine 50CM please. ...would have to chain it to my wrist so "they" would need to chop my arm off to take it from me!
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Post by loudpedal on Aug 19, 2019 15:31:06 GMT -8
Honda wants nothing to do with Alonso. GP2 engine comparison hasn't been forgotten. I know your mission in life is to argue, but scroll up two posts from yours.
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Post by pushtopass on Aug 19, 2019 16:07:47 GMT -8
I doubt Fernando would want to be paired with Max, who would crush him. So I am skeptical that it was offered but if it were, I am unsurprised that he would say no.
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Post by hairyscotsman on Aug 19, 2019 17:40:20 GMT -8
I dunno. It depends on what might be happening at Ferrari imho. And taking that seat mid-season on that team has little upside. The more I think about it, the thing that makes the most sense in terms of FA coming back to F1 is if he does it in 2021 with the rules change, unless he really gets what he wants for 2020 and can carry it over to 2021.
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Post by hairyscotsman on Aug 19, 2019 17:42:06 GMT -8
I doubt Fernando would want to be paired with Max, who would crush him. So I am skeptical that it was offered but if it were, I am unsurprised that he would say no. Crush him? I really doubt it. That's what they said would happen when he was paired with Kimi, and Massa, and JB, and even some said it before he was paired with Stof. That's not to take anything away from Max though. He's a rare talent.
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Post by hairyscotsman on Aug 19, 2019 17:45:21 GMT -8
I'm a bit skeptical on this, but it sounds fairly legit.
Honda wants nothing to do with Alonso. GP2 engine comparison hasn't been forgotten. Except that they let him run a Honda less than a year ago in the Andretti test at Barber, long after the McLaren - Honda split. It's McLaren and Brown that they want nothing to do with, and they have no problem with Fernando, according to Michael Andretti just recently. His team basically being the face of Honda in IndyCar and in American racing, I doubt he'd say that against their wishes or if it weren't true. Andretti loves Alonso, wants to work with him again, and seems to think he'll be able to. In fact, I think it's fairly likely that the next time we see Alonso in an IndyCar, it'll be in an Andretti Honda, after his McLaren obligations have been fulfilled... which also might be why he doesn't want to race a full IndyCar season in 2020.
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Post by montybriscoe on Aug 19, 2019 17:49:47 GMT -8
Honda wants nothing to do with Alonso. GP2 engine comparison hasn't been forgotten. I know your mission in life is to argue, but scroll up two posts from yours. LOL, take it easy. I was reading and posting on my Note 8 and did not see the replies underneath. I will go up and delete if it makes you feel better. Actually, if you knew anything about me, you would know that my mission in life is to find the best pizza. 🤣🤪🍕🍕🍕
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Post by montybriscoe on Aug 19, 2019 18:09:32 GMT -8
Honda wants nothing to do with Alonso. GP2 engine comparison hasn't been forgotten. Except that they let him run a Honda less than a year ago in the Andretti test at Barber, long after the McLaren - Honda split. It's McLaren and Brown that they want nothing to do with, and they have no problem with Fernando, according to Michael Andretti just recently. His team basically being the face of Honda in IndyCar and in American racing, I doubt he'd say that against their wishes or if it weren't true. Andretti loves Alonso, wants to work with him again, and seems to think he'll be able to. In fact, I think it's fairly likely that the next time we see Alonso in an IndyCar, it'll be in an Andretti Honda, after his McLaren obligations have been fulfilled... which also might be why he doesn't want to race a full IndyCar season in 2020. Alonso ran the car at Barber with all the Honda logos removed to make it appear he wasn't driving a Honda, even though he was. 🤣 www.racefans.net/2018/09/05/pictures-alonso-tests-indycar-barber/Now, part of the reason may have been because he was under contract to Toyota at the time. We will see about the future with Andretti but I have never been under the impression things were all that warm and fuzzy between the two (Alonso and Honda), not just McLaren.
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Post by montybriscoe on Aug 19, 2019 18:11:48 GMT -8
I scrolled up to make sure I didn't reply to something that may sound the same as another reply to a post I just replied to. 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Buck on Aug 19, 2019 18:14:26 GMT -8
The Arrow McLaren thing frees up a Honda franchise...
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Aug 19, 2019 18:40:39 GMT -8
I dunno. It depends on what might be happening at Ferrari imho. And taking that seat mid-season on that team has little upside. The more I think about it, the thing that makes the most sense in terms of FA coming back to F1 is if he does it in 2021 with the rules change, unless he really gets what he wants for 2020 and can carry it over to 2021. All do really know is that RedBull, Ferrari, Mercedes and Renault all had available seats at the end of last season and none of them made an offer to Alonso, even after FOM asked them all to reconsider. I think FOM even approached Haas. I am aware you are Alonso fan, and there is good reason to be one, fantastic driver, but with every day he spends away from F1 the chances of him returning grow smaller. The only caveat I with throw into this would be Vettel retiring at the end of this season. As unlikely as that is it would open up a chance for Alonso to return, really his only chance with any front running team.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Aug 19, 2019 18:45:33 GMT -8
We will see about the future with Andretti but I have never been under the impression things were all that warm and fuzzy between the two (Alonso and Honda), not just McLaren. Agreed. When you call out a Honda F1 engine to be GP2 spec on world wide television that business relationship is over. Asia cultures, especially Japanese and Chinese, do not forget insults like that, ever.
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