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Post by mmi16 on Oct 19, 2019 17:57:10 GMT -8
Helmet visor you can swipe at with your hand and/or fingers when necessary - the shield only if you have orangutan arms. That's why you use the RainX, so wiping isn't needed. Eventually wiping is needed - I use Rain-X.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 18:23:24 GMT -8
Newly crowned NTT IndyCar Series champion Josef Newgarden is ready to use INDYCAR’s Aeroscreen even though... Of course he is! He has no say in the matter. And if he does say anything negative he will get 'slapped'.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Oct 20, 2019 6:34:44 GMT -8
That's why you use the RainX, so wiping isn't needed. Eventually wiping is needed - I use Rain-X. So it's dealt with by means like cars with windshields - tearoffs, sponge and squeegee. Indy cars make pitstops.
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Post by mmi16 on Oct 20, 2019 9:00:10 GMT -8
Eventually wiping is needed - I use Rain-X. So it's dealt with by means like cars with windshields - tearoffs, sponge and squeegee. Indy cars make pitstops. 30 or more laps not being able to see until the next pit stop - yep that's the ticket for safety.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Oct 20, 2019 10:23:28 GMT -8
So it's dealt with by means like cars with windshields - tearoffs, sponge and squeegee. Indy cars make pitstops. 30 or more laps not being able to see until the next pit stop - yep that's the ticket for safety. So why is that not a bigger problem for cars with windshields? Do Indy Cars dump a lot more fluids than Nascar or sports cars?
I'm thinking you just don't like the looks of it, and don't believe any of what you're saying.
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Post by mmi16 on Oct 20, 2019 16:39:18 GMT -8
30 or more laps not being able to see until the next pit stop - yep that's the ticket for safety. So why is that not a bigger problem for cars with windshields? Do Indy Cars dump a lot more fluids than Nascar or sports cars?
I'm thinking you just don't like the looks of it, and don't believe any of what you're saying.
Cars with windshields have the windshields and the viewpoint of the drivers about 2 feet higher than the viewpoint of the driver of a formula type car. Crud that is kicked up by leading cars will be hitting following cars about radiator or headlight height (driver height on open wheel formula cars). How many formula cars have you driven in competition, in bad weather in competition? Sedans or Sports Cars, with their higher vision points don't get all the low down crud that formula cars do at driver height.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Oct 21, 2019 5:21:04 GMT -8
That's a good point, I had not considered that.
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Post by downforce on Oct 25, 2019 15:48:42 GMT -8
That's the end of great looking Indy cars. I know that's secondary to safety, but... i'm with sisyphus on this one. Looks OK in side profile, but hideous head on. And add in the hybrid drive trains... ugh. Reminds me of this crazy thing
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Post by truenorth on Nov 9, 2019 17:06:07 GMT -8
AEROSCREEN PASSES ITS FINAL 2019 TEST AT SEBRING Curt Cavin Nov 5, 2019 SEBRING, Fla. -- INDYCAR continued its Aeroscreen development program Tuesday at Sebring International Raceway with Arrow McLaren SP and Dale Coyne Racing with Vasser-Sullivan participating in the fourth and final test session of the year. The conditions for the one-day test could only be described as ideal for testing the safety innovation, with the weather unseasonably hot and humid like the NTT IndyCar Series teams will face through the summer stretch and the track was predictably bumpy in replicating a street course. Amid all that, the Aeroscreen, scheduled for its race debut at the season-opening Firestone Grand Prix of St. Petersburg on March 13-15 in St. Petersburg, Fla., performed as designed once again. “And we checked boxes with drivers who had not previously experienced the Aeroscreen,” said Bill Pappas, INDYCAR’s vice president of competition and engineering. Four-time Indy car champion Sebastien Bourdais of Dale Coyne Racing with Vasser-Sullivan, Patricio O’Ward of Arrow McLaren SP and Santino Ferrucci of Dale Coyne Racing, who utilized Bourdais’ car in for the session, were the latest group of NTT IndyCar Series drivers to have the opportunity to test the Aeroscreen. The steamy Florida weather allowed for trying various driver cooling options and further validate the anti-fogging mechanism. Bourdais, who wears glasses, had no visibility issues in his first experience with the Aeroscreen. O’Ward, in his first on-track experience with Arrow McLaren SP, similarly adapted quickly to his new cockpit surroundings. Ferrucci had no issues while driving Bourdais’ car. Pappas said INDYCAR and its suppliers are on schedule to deliver Aeroscreens to all full-season teams next month as preparation builds for Firestone Grand Prix of St. Petersburg. The Aeroscreen was announced in May and developed by Red Bull Advanced Technologies in conjunction with INDYCAR. Arrow McLaren SP and Dale Coyne Racing with Vasser-Sullivan became the fourth and fifth teams to work with the Aeroscreen. Chip Ganassi Racing, Team Penske and Andretti Autosport participated in tests last month that were held at Indianapolis Motor Speedway, Barber Motorsports Park and Richmond Raceway. Scott Dixon of Chip Ganassi Racing and Will Power of Team Penske took part in the test at IMS; Ryan Hunter-Reay of Andretti Autosport and Simon Pagenaud of Team Penske tested at Barber; and Josef Newgarden of Team Penske and Dixon handled Richmond. These tests were designed to replicate the various conditions competitors will face during the 17-race season. IMS is the largest (2.5 miles) and fastest oval on the schedule while the .75-mile Richmond layout is the shortest of the five oval tracks. Barber Motorsports Park is a permanent road course like INDYCAR will use on seven occasions next year, and there will be five street-course races where Sebring-like bumps must be navigated. In consultation with drivers, INDYCAR will offer standard cooling options at each venue in order to keep the playing field level. “These will be areas with specific parts,” Pappas said. “Teams won’t be free to develop their own ductwork.” Bourdais said the utilization of a helmet duct likely will be the best option for particularly hot days. “It’s figuring out what’s the best (cooling) option,” he said. “But it’s nothing we can’t work through. “In races, we drive through clouds of debris, particularly on speedways and superspeedways, so I think this is a massive step (in protection). It’s a much safer place for us IndyCar drivers – I think everyone is pleased with it.” The drivers said it took very little time to get acclimated to it. “You can barely tell the screen is there because it’s pretty clear,” O’Ward said. “Obviously, it’s a bit more enclosed, but you see everything you usually see. The eyes kind of look around the halo, so you don’t really notice it. Once you’re pushing, you don’t really see the Aeroscreen.”
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Post by truenorth on Feb 12, 2020 13:29:20 GMT -8
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Post by Spin on Feb 12, 2020 16:38:36 GMT -8
I still don't like it one bit. Looks like a knee-jerk reaction that the boss presented, and everybody who likes their job pats him on the back and tells him how great it is.
I'll try. That's all I can promise.
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Post by truenorth on Feb 13, 2020 17:18:26 GMT -8
2020.02.14 Takuma Sato, who first tested the aero screen introduced this season, "I feel there is still a difference from the top." Photo & Text Hiroaki Matsumoto A joint test of the NTT IndyCar Series was held at the Circuit of the Americas in Texas, with participation of Takuma Sato of Ray Hall Letterman Lanigan Racing, who has been participating in the IndyCar Series for 11 years. Takuma, who won his first win in the 2019 season and won two pole positions, was well watched to see how he will start this season. With a protective device, the Aeroscreen, which will be installed on IndyCar this season, Takuma will be riding his first machine in this test. The shooting of the promotion and the media day took place on the 10th of the previous day, and the run was scheduled for the 11th and 12th. After the Media Day on the 10th, Takuma rode on the car at the circuit and adjusted the seats and checked the visibility. Takuma Sato with a smile "I don't know until I run, but I'm sitting in the cockpit of an airplane. It feels very protected," he said. "I've heard that it's heavier than 20kg when I put on the aero screen, so I have to check how it will affect the car," he said. In addition, when sitting in the cockpit, the helmet was provided with a duct so that air could be sent. This is because the temperature inside the cockpit is expected to rise. Air duct attached to the helmet The test menu, including the equipment, was a mountainous two-day run, but unfortunate weather prevented it. On the first day of the test, there is not much rainfall, but the temperature and the road surface temperature do not rise, and although most cars go in the course with wet tires, most machines return on the installation lap. Firestone tires warned that the car could not be run unless the total temperature and road surface temperature reached 100F at Fahrenheit. At 3:00 pm, the test was suspended and the first day ended. At this point, plans were in place to postpone until Thursday morning on Thursday 13 if the second day had similar weather. Bad weather on the first day of the test On the second day of the test, the weather was the same in the morning, and the test started with a one-hour delay. However, there was a forecast that the rain would be light rain and the weather would recover, so the teams were announced waiting until 18:00 with no lunch time. Takuma once went on the course wearing rain tires, but as in the first day, he went to the pit in one lap. As soon as the rain stopped, it was almost noon when I re-entered the course. "I went to the course to see how the screen worked in the rain, and it didn't hit the rain directly," said Takuma. The road started to dry out, changing from rain tires to slick tires, and the machines began to be ready for the course at around 13:00. Takuma was high in wet time with a time of around 2:02 to 06 seconds, but as the track dried, other cars exceeded the time and Takuma's car number 30 disappeared from the leaderboard. Team Pensky, Andretti Autosport, and Patrickio Oward of rookie Arrow McLaren SP have made relatively good progress. Alex Parrow, who was active in the Japanese super formula, also showed a good pace. Lahore Letterman Lanigan's Takuma and Graham Lahore fell from the top ten and did not come up. Team Pensky, Chip Ganassi, McClarain SP, etc. had already completed several tests with aero screens installed, but Ray Hall Letterman Lanigan was one of the first runs as a team, I could not deny that I was late. Although there was no major trouble in Takuma's test, he returned to the garage and spent time setting up again. His lap stopped at 40 laps, finishing 22nd in 1 min 48.6896. The top time will power was 1: 46: 7603. Takuma Sato keeps driving Takuma clouded her expression and said, "It was a little incomplete burning. At the end I missed the timing to set the time with the red flag .... This was my first test after the screen arrived, so There was something the engineer wanted to check at the same time, and I was just doing the experiment (bitter smile). " "Because I can't go to the next step without confirming that, I didn't set the time to follow the course this time, and it was clear why I didn't get the time. ) Is a bit faster, so I still feel there is a difference. "The aero screen wasn't a big problem, but it was hard to see when it was backlit in the evening. I couldn't see it without a screen when it was backlit (laughs). That's why we're going to do a thorough race setting for St. Petersburg and Long Beach. It is another month before IndyCar's opening game St. Petersburg. What will Takuma do?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2020 21:19:21 GMT -8
That's not a cockpit! It's a conning tower.
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Post by kidrybot on Feb 16, 2020 8:15:27 GMT -8
It's fugly. But so was what happened to Justin Wilson.
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Post by truenorth on Feb 28, 2020 9:31:02 GMT -8
Aeroscreen adding to IndyCar pit stop workloadImage by Barry Cantrell/LAT Racer Marshall Pruett Feb 28 2020 The NTT IndyCar Series has modified its rulebook in reaction to the need for servicing its new aeroscreen during pit stops. With the cockpit-mounted driver safety device subject to receiving the same fluids, rubber marks, and dirt that strike windshields in other forms of racing, IndyCar has created a new ‘aeroscreen attendant’ role while servicing each entry in competition. Adding to the traditional use of six over-the-wall crew members, where four change tires, one refuels, and the sixth handles the rear-mounted air jack, the series will allow a seventh person to interact with the car for the sole purpose of cleaning the aeroscreen or removing tear-offs. Unlike a stock car or sports car, where a large, single tear-off is torn away by a crew member, the central spine running down the middle of the laminated PPG aeroscreen requires the use of two tear-offs, positioned on both sides of the spine. The aeroscreen attendant is only allowed to serve a limited role during pit stops. According to Rule 7.10.4.5, they “must remain sitting, standing or behind the pit wall until the car comes to a complete stop in its pit box, may only perform work while car’s rear tires are elevated, may perform no additional work outside of aeroscreen cleaning and/or removal of aeroscreen tear-offs, and must remain in control of any tear-off materials at all times.” Wedged between the front tire changer and the refueler, the aeroscreen attendant is meant to perform their tasks and quickly remove themselves from the rest of the pit stop sequence. Per Rule 7.10.4.5.1.6, “upon completion of work, aeroscreen attendant is required to return immediately to the cold side of the pit wall.” The effort required by each IndyCar team to nominate and train each entry’s aeroscreen attendant, integrate that crew member into pit stop practice, and identify the best practices for applying tear-offs to the aeroscreens prior to on-track sessions is surprisingly detailed. “It’s a bit of a foot dance,” Andretti Autosport assistant team manager Josh Freund told RACER. “Some will be new people going over the wall for us. And we use tire helpers to clear that tire coming off the car, so there’s the guy on the front tire, the refueler, someone doing the aeroscreen, and someone behind them taking a tire away, so it could get busy.” Exactly how many tear-off changes will be required remains unclear. Image by Scott LePage/LAT With tear-offs in place, the disposable adhesive plastic pieces protect the aeroscreen from pitting and other harmful or obstructive items that would otherwise make viewing of the road ahead less clear. Freund says the strategy of stacking a thick assembly of tear-offs on the aeroscreen might sound like the best plan, but each driver will need to offer input on the upper limit. For standard-length races, three to four could suffice. For the Indy 500, the longest race of the year, an alternate plan might be required. Drivers could run through their tear-offs before the end of 200 laps with somewhere between six to eight pit stops to complete, forcing the aeroscreen attendant to leave the last tear-off in place to protect the aeroscreen and begin using a cloth cleaning agent to remove as much debris as possible. Teams won’t have answers until they get a feel for how many tear-offs can be tolerated by their drivers, and if the number is high enough to complete the race without manual cleaning. It all depends on how many tear-offs a driver can see through, and how long it will take the attendant to clean the aeroscreen by hand during pit stops that last 10 seconds or less. “We tried starting out with seven tear-offs at the Barber aeroscreen test with Ryan Hunter-Reay, and he came in and said we had to remove some because the distortion was too much,” Freund added. “What tires do we have this weekend, what kind of marbles will we have, is someone dropping fluid? There’s a lot to consider. “It’s something to test right away at Indy. Maybe you start with 10 and see if they can see through them, and if not, how many you go with? How many tear-offs we can install before distortion happens? We’ll need to test and learn on the fly before we get to the race, and I bet everyone will be doing the same thing.” Aeroscreen tear-offs. Image by Chris Owens/IndyCar Based on the pit stop practice Freund’s teams have done with the aeroscreen attendant in motion, the tear-off process has been remarkably fast. “For what we’ve timed so far, it’s about half the time of a full stop — 3.5 or 4 seconds — to do the aeroscreen, so that’s good,” he said. “It’s harder to say if it’s a short fill, or tires only, so that’s another thing to work out in practice.” A day of ‘tear-off school’ education was recently held by IndyCar where teams sent crew members to learn the art of applying tear-offs to an aeroscreen. While the time needed perform the installation of multiple layers takes little more than an hour, the time required for those layers to fully settle and eliminate bubbles can last upwards of one day, according to a few crew chiefs. Some teams are planning to keep two aeroscreens in active service, with one primed and reserved for race day while the other is deployed throughout practice and qualifying. Owing to the long lead time for tear-offs to settle after installation, teams will need to actively manage the consumption rate of tear-offs and plan well in advance to have new tear-offs applied and ready for action the next day. Tear-off costs will also become an item closely monitored by teams. A pack of four tear-offs, meaning four lefts and four rights, runs in the neighborhood of $425. In some instances, depending on the event, a pack could be consumed each day per entry. For a team with three or more entries, the daily expense for disposable plastic shields to safeguard the aeroscreen and give IndyCar drivers unblemished views is not insignificant. Drivers may have some housekeeping duties of their own as a result of the aeroscreen. Image by Barry Cantrell/LAT The final aeroscreen adjustment of interest falls with the drivers. Owing to the new lack of high-speed air hitting their helmet visors, microfiber cloths could become standard items to store in the cockpit. “If a driver gets water on their visor, there isn’t enough force coming from the air through the aeroscreen vent to clear it off,” Freund said. “So, the aeroscreen is great at dispersing water when it hits, but if it gets onto their visor, it just sits there, from what we found, so we’re looking at cloths our guys might use to wipe their visors and clear it themselves in that situation.”
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 22:56:28 GMT -8
What a pig-mess of Tear-offs, and Visor-wipes. What's next?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 23:59:21 GMT -8
microfiber cloths could become standard items to store in the cockpit Store where? Next to the 'cup-holder'?
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Post by Spin on Mar 3, 2020 2:28:46 GMT -8
When will they have time to find a rag and wipe off their visor?
Do they still have arm tethers?
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Mar 4, 2020 9:19:01 GMT -8
This new thing is certainly not the first big windscreen on an IndyCar ...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 21:20:35 GMT -8
Do you realize that "Olsonite" was a thermoplastic material used for Toilet Seats?
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