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Post by wilmywood8455 on Feb 8, 2024 3:57:53 GMT -8
So, I've been curious about this. How do they get away with having a tobacco product sponsor? Who's the tobacco sponsor?
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Post by struns on Feb 8, 2024 6:18:15 GMT -8
So, I've been curious about this. How do they get away with having a tobacco product sponsor? Who's the tobacco sponsor? Loophole
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Post by jmjgt on Feb 8, 2024 6:49:53 GMT -8
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Feb 8, 2024 7:08:44 GMT -8
Who's the tobacco sponsor? Loophole Oh, I don't know. It's a nicotine delivery system with no tobacco.
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Post by jmjgt on Feb 8, 2024 9:36:09 GMT -8
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Post by jmjgt on Feb 9, 2024 7:39:33 GMT -8
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Post by pushtopass on Feb 9, 2024 8:48:49 GMT -8
I refuse to call this team by its new name.
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Post by woodnboats on Feb 9, 2024 16:26:17 GMT -8
^I'm the same with the Cleveland I*****s and the Washington R******s. People whose sensitivities are so delicate as to be offended by those names do not deserve to be coddled. It weakens the gene pool. What would they do if faced with a REAL threat, scalping or being hauled off into slavery for instance?
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Post by jmjgt on Feb 9, 2024 16:52:15 GMT -8
^I'm the same with the Cleveland I*****s and the Washington R******s. People whose sensitivities are so delicate as to be offended by those names do not deserve to be coddled. It weakens the gene pool. What would they do if faced with a REAL threat, scalping or being hauled off into slavery for instance? What would YOU do in the face of a more advanced, better equipped civilization enslaving your people and murdering you for your land? Sensitivity of words comes from the actions of the people who came up with those words, there are literally hundreds of indigenous tribal names and words available but lets use the ones that keep the maximum amount of people in their place. And lets lie to our kids when they ask what those names actually mean, just tell them it's just the name of the team. nothing more. And what does any of this have to do with the latest name it after whats on the check they just gave you, mouthful of crap branding deal? Then again it's better that than perpetuating a derogatory slur.
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Post by mikey on Feb 10, 2024 4:32:02 GMT -8
^I'm the same with the Cleveland I*****s and the Washington R******s. People whose sensitivities are so delicate as to be offended by those names do not deserve to be coddled. It weakens the gene pool. What would they do if faced with a REAL threat, scalping or being hauled off into slavery for instance? What would YOU do in the face of a more advanced, better equipped civilization enslaving your people and murdering you for your land? Sensitivity of words comes from the actions of the people who came up with those words, there are literally hundreds of indigenous tribal names and words available but lets use the ones that keep the maximum amount of people in their place. And lets lie to our kids when they ask what those names actually mean, just tell them it's just the name of the team. nothing more. And what does any of this have to do with the latest name it after whats on the check they just gave you, mouthful of crap branding deal? Then again it's better that than perpetuating a derogatory slur. The R******* is actually the name of an American Indian High School football team, yes American Indians living on tribal lands call their high school football team the R*******. It's only a 'bad' word in context with thinking of them in derogatory ways, it would be like calling a the Black Socks because the players are all Black, that would be bad but if it was because they ALWAYS wore black socks on their feet it's not a bad word at all. In fact people in the US Military wear black socks alot when they put their dress uniforms on. As for the latest car name I agree that's it's a mouthfull and that most announcers will continue to use a much shorter version so they can get more words in during the race.
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Post by yenkostinger on Feb 10, 2024 5:59:08 GMT -8
Fake Minardi
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Post by jmjgt on Feb 10, 2024 8:18:07 GMT -8
I'll be calling them RB2 or baby bulls.
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Post by DanicaFan on Feb 10, 2024 8:42:36 GMT -8
^ Which will morph into Baby Balls.
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Post by woodnboats on Feb 10, 2024 21:03:30 GMT -8
^I'm the same with the Cleveland I*****s and the Washington R******s. People whose sensitivities are so delicate as to be offended by those names do not deserve to be coddled. It weakens the gene pool. What would they do if faced with a REAL threat, scalping or being hauled off into slavery for instance? What would YOU do in the face of a more advanced, better equipped civilization enslaving your people and murdering you for your land? Sensitivity of words comes from the actions of the people who came up with those words, there are literally hundreds of indigenous tribal names and words available but lets use the ones that keep the maximum amount of people in their place. And lets lie to our kids when they ask what those names actually mean, just tell them it's just the name of the team. nothing more. And what does any of this have to do with the latest name it after whats on the check they just gave you, mouthful of crap branding deal? Then again it's better that than perpetuating a derogatory slur. See, I was talking about them murdering and enslaving each other. And none of this nonsense should be applied today.
That was then; this is now. What was done to indigenous people was wrong, but also inevitable...then, and should not be the basis for essentially meaningless attempts to set apart groups as separate from the rest of society, allowed to be protected from havings feelings hurt by language. We should all be above that. If I am hurt by being called a kraut or a kike, I need to look to myself to understand why that is so, not how to prevent it from happening. Especially so when the reference is only oblique, and intended to be complimentary, as in Indians, which strictly speaking refers to people from an entirely different continent. I saw this hand-writing on the wall 30 years ago when a well-meaning friend gave my six year old daughter a bowdlerized version of Huckleberry Finn, apparently never having read what Twain, a staunch abolitionist, said about the language in it, without which the meaning of the story is lost. Time for some of us to grow up.
And if we have to concern ourselves with names, how about not using numbers to designate corners, etc, except maybe for maybe Turn 8 in Hungary. Visualize Ste Devote at Monaco. See? You don't even have to know what track it's on to see Perez sticking it in the barrier. Now try the same for Turn 4 at Hungary, or even Turn A at Monaco (hint; you already answered the second one).
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Post by jmjgt on Feb 10, 2024 22:59:24 GMT -8
What would YOU do in the face of a more advanced, better equipped civilization enslaving your people and murdering you for your land? Sensitivity of words comes from the actions of the people who came up with those words, there are literally hundreds of indigenous tribal names and words available but lets use the ones that keep the maximum amount of people in their place. And lets lie to our kids when they ask what those names actually mean, just tell them it's just the name of the team. nothing more. And what does any of this have to do with the latest name it after whats on the check they just gave you, mouthful of crap branding deal? Then again it's better that than perpetuating a derogatory slur. See, I was talking about them murdering and enslaving each other. And none of this nonsense should be applied today.
That was then; this is now. What was done to indigenous people was wrong, but also inevitable...then, and should not be the basis for essentially meaningless attempts to set apart groups as separate from the rest of society, allowed to be protected from havings feelings hurt by language. We should all be above that. If I am hurt by being called a kraut or a kike, I need to look to myself to understand why that is so, not how to prevent it from happening. Especially so when the reference is only oblique, and intended to be complimentary, as in Indians, which strictly speaking refers to people from an entirely different continent. I saw this hand-writing on the wall 30 years ago when a well-meaning friend gave my six year old daughter a bowdlerized version of Huckleberry Finn, apparently never having read what Twain, a staunch abolitionist, said about the language in it, without which the meaning of the story is lost. Time for some of us to grow up.
And if we have to concern ourselves with names, how about not using numbers to designate corners, etc, except maybe for maybe Turn 8 in Hungary. Visualize Ste Devote at Monaco. See? You don't even have to know what track it's on to see Perez sticking it in the barrier. Now try the same for Turn 4 at Hungary, or even Turn A at Monaco (hint; you already answered the second one).
It's when the actual people that the teams name is referencing ask for it to be changed that you grow up and show some respect, after all we're not talking about literature being sanitized (or omitted like whats happening in a certain southern state), we're talking about a sports team. And name the city that named their team the two words you cited, bet you can't.
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Post by pushtopass on Feb 11, 2024 7:42:05 GMT -8
What would YOU do in the face of a more advanced, better equipped civilization enslaving your people and murdering you for your land? Sensitivity of words comes from the actions of the people who came up with those words, there are literally hundreds of indigenous tribal names and words available but lets use the ones that keep the maximum amount of people in their place. And lets lie to our kids when they ask what those names actually mean, just tell them it's just the name of the team. nothing more. And what does any of this have to do with the latest name it after whats on the check they just gave you, mouthful of crap branding deal? Then again it's better that than perpetuating a derogatory slur. The R******* is actually the name of an American Indian High School football team, yes American Indians living on tribal lands call their high school football team the R*******. It's only a 'bad' word in context with thinking of them in derogatory ways, it would be like calling a the Black Socks because the players are all Black, that would be bad but if it was because they ALWAYS wore black socks on their feet it's not a bad word at all. In fact people in the US Military wear black socks alot when they put their dress uniforms on. As for the latest car name I agree that's it's a mouthfull and that most announcers will continue to use a much shorter version so they can get more words in during the race. Though I realize this is veering off topic, one needs to keep in mind that just because a group calls themselves something within that group, does not mean it is appropriate for outsiders to call them that. As someone once wrote, and I paraphrase, "Just because my wife and I call each other Sweetheart does not make it right for YOU to call us that."
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Post by kidrybot on Feb 11, 2024 10:25:03 GMT -8
I'll be calling them RB2 or baby bulls. I will call them Minardi.
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Post by DanicaFan on Feb 11, 2024 11:12:51 GMT -8
I'll be calling them RB2 or baby bulls. I will call them Minardi. I like Baby Balls better.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Feb 11, 2024 11:22:48 GMT -8
I will call them Minardi. I like Baby Balls better.
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Post by jmjgt on Feb 11, 2024 11:51:57 GMT -8
I like Baby Balls better. We can only hope he doesn't change his avatar again.
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