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Post by racerman967 on May 29, 2023 8:18:59 GMT -8
Was there anything that Lance didn't hit today??
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Post by olderguysrule on May 29, 2023 8:33:22 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2023 8:45:30 GMT -8
Everybody keeps talking about how great qualifying was. Big F'ing deal.
The cars are pretty much on track by themselves, so the narrow confines of this outdated course don't factor in.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on May 29, 2023 8:46:33 GMT -8
Everybody keeps talking about how great qualifying was. Big F'ing deal.
The cars are pretty much on track by themselves, so the narrow confines of this outdated course don't factor in. Those barriers that line the track disappear during qualifying do they?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2023 8:48:03 GMT -8
Everybody keeps talking about how great qualifying was. Big F'ing deal.
The cars are pretty much on track by themselves, so the narrow confines of this outdated course don't factor in. Those barriers disappear during qualifying do they? The point is there are no passing attempts.
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Post by pushtopass on May 29, 2023 9:06:26 GMT -8
Those barriers disappear during qualifying do they? The point is there are no passing attempts. But good tension
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Post by wilmywood8455 on May 29, 2023 10:01:18 GMT -8
Those barriers disappear during qualifying do they? The point is there are no passing attempts. Yeah. It was QUALIFYING.
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Post by pushtopass on May 29, 2023 10:12:58 GMT -8
The point is there are no passing attempts. Yeah. It was QUALIFYING. Actually, with people on hot laps and others on out/in/cool-down laps, there is a ton of passing in qualifying!
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Post by struns on May 29, 2023 11:41:49 GMT -8
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Post by jmjgt on May 29, 2023 11:52:35 GMT -8
Was there anything that Lance didn't hit today?? A top ten finish? Seriously he NEEDS to produce quick, Merc is one point away from taking 2nd place in the WCC away from Aston.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2023 11:52:50 GMT -8
Actually, with people on hot laps and others on out/in/cool-down laps, there is a ton of passing in qualifying! Never mind.
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Post by mmi16 on May 29, 2023 12:10:39 GMT -8
Those barriers disappear during qualifying do they? The point is there are no passing attempts. There are hundreds of passes during qualifying - with the 20MPH tire preparing cars as a driver is on a Hot Lap. There aren't places for the tire prepers to hide.
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Post by mikey on May 29, 2023 15:29:19 GMT -8
The point is there are no passing attempts. There are hundreds of passes during qualifying - with the 20MPH tire preparing cars as a driver is on a Hot Lap. There aren't places for the tire prepers to hide. They need to institute a minimum lap speed
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Post by Pistola on May 29, 2023 15:59:48 GMT -8
They need to institute a minimum lap speed They have that rule already. There is a maximum time allowed between SC2 and SC1 (pit exit to pit in) which is set after P2. It's primarily to keep cars from going too slow on cool down laps because it was found difficult to enforce on out laps. On an out lap you could go fast to start the lap and then burn up time going very slowly right at the end which didn't solve things. The drivers still needed to prep the car as well as find a space in line for a fast lap.
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Post by mmi16 on May 29, 2023 16:32:20 GMT -8
They need to institute a minimum lap speed They have that rule already. There is a maximum time allowed between SC2 and SC1 (pit exit to pit in) which is set after P2. It's primarily to keep cars from going too slow on cool down laps because it was found difficult to enforce on out laps. On an out lap you could go fast to start the lap and then burn up time going very slowly right at the end which didn't solve things. The drivers still needed to prep the car as well as find a space in line for a fast lap. Set up more timing loops and require at least 80% of competitive speeds for the the conditions from loop to loop.
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Post by Pistola on May 29, 2023 16:43:04 GMT -8
They have that rule already. There is a maximum time allowed between SC2 and SC1 (pit exit to pit in) which is set after P2. It's primarily to keep cars from going too slow on cool down laps because it was found difficult to enforce on out laps. On an out lap you could go fast to start the lap and then burn up time going very slowly right at the end which didn't solve things. The drivers still needed to prep the car as well as find a space in line for a fast lap. Set up more timing loops and require at least 80% of competitive speeds for the the conditions from loop to loop. That's been suggested. All it would take is one driver hitting the exact limit in the last sector and everyone behind is potentially screwed. The attempts at spacing were really clear at Monaco where you saw drivers leaving the pits really slowly trying to create room and still there was a line. It's even more problematic there because many of them were staying out for a 2nd hot lap.
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Post by mmi16 on May 29, 2023 19:09:19 GMT -8
Set up more timing loops and require at least 80% of competitive speeds for the the conditions from loop to loop. That's been suggested. All it would take is one driver hitting the exact limit in the last sector and everyone behind is potentially screwed. The attempts at spacing were really clear at Monaco where you saw drivers leaving the pits really slowly trying to create room and still there was a line. It's even more problematic there because many of them were staying out for a 2nd hot lap. If they keep this BS up - they could go back to single car qualifying or maybe single team qualifying.
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Post by Red_Hercules on May 29, 2023 19:25:44 GMT -8
That's been suggested. All it would take is one driver hitting the exact limit in the last sector and everyone behind is potentially screwed. The attempts at spacing were really clear at Monaco where you saw drivers leaving the pits really slowly trying to create room and still there was a line. It's even more problematic there because many of them were staying out for a 2nd hot lap. If they keep this BS up - they could go back to single car qualifying or maybe single team qualifying. I still maintain that one of these days WE ARE GOING TO SEE a huge wreck AND someone may be killed, after which qualifying will be changed forever to single car qualifying.
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Post by mikey on May 29, 2023 19:46:57 GMT -8
That's been suggested. All it would take is one driver hitting the exact limit in the last sector and everyone behind is potentially screwed. The attempts at spacing were really clear at Monaco where you saw drivers leaving the pits really slowly trying to create room and still there was a line. It's even more problematic there because many of them were staying out for a 2nd hot lap. If they keep this BS up - they could go back to single car qualifying or maybe single team qualifying. Give each team a time slot and if they miss it tough noogies they go to the end of the list, they could do it by pit stall or WCC standings or last race standings it really doesn't matter. They could even draw balls with numbers on them from a hat on Thursday for all the difference it makes to the fans, get the Team Principals together and each one comes up in turn to draw their slot kinda like the Kentucky Derby. Add 5 minutes to the end of the current Q1, and Q2, for a free for all so any Team that got skipped because they missed their time slot still gets a chance as well as any that think they can get out of the relegation zone because of changing track conditions, car repairs, etc.
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Post by jmjgt on May 29, 2023 20:13:17 GMT -8
That's been suggested. All it would take is one driver hitting the exact limit in the last sector and everyone behind is potentially screwed. The attempts at spacing were really clear at Monaco where you saw drivers leaving the pits really slowly trying to create room and still there was a line. It's even more problematic there because many of them were staying out for a 2nd hot lap. If they keep this BS up - they could go back to single car qualifying or maybe single team qualifying. They'll never do single car with setting a good time being so dependent on track evolution.
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