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Post by Pistola on Mar 24, 2024 7:12:54 GMT -8
Williams is not healthy enough to be in F1 - a replacement would be in proper order. And wasn't Vowles in charge of Williams last year as well? Then why in the hell is it a big deal that he canned a 20,000 line Excel Spreadsheet and it's NOT his first year with the Team as the boss? Shouldn't he have been on top of that his FIRST year?!! If the process doesn't work for everyone there's a problem and they either need to fix it or get new people that can use the antiquated process. People can not be at their best if they can't make the process work for them. Vowles didn't start at Williams until January of 2023 which is really late to accomplish much in '23 while also dealing with the race season.
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Post by racerman967 on Mar 24, 2024 7:40:20 GMT -8
I get that the changes needed to be made. But when building a car for the season why would you not build 3 chassis at that point? James has been in F1 long enough to know that in the blink of an eye you can lose one. And now there are report they may not be able to get it fixed by Japan, which is in 2 weeks!
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Post by mmi16 on Mar 24, 2024 9:48:03 GMT -8
I get that the changes needed to be made. But when building a car for the season why would you not build 3 chassis at that point? James has been in F1 long enough to know that in the blink of an eye you can lose one. And now there are report they may not be able to get it fixed by Japan, which is in 2 weeks! Hell - in the blink of an eye you can lose both chassis. If you are building cars for a two car team, you need to build at least four, if not five.
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Post by hairyscotsman on Mar 24, 2024 21:52:24 GMT -8
Imagine if Andretti showed up and embarrassed themselves and F1, because a megabucks racing team couldn’t design a working wheel nut. Oh, the shame and disrepute they would bring on the pinnacle of motorsport.
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Post by mikey on Mar 25, 2024 2:54:07 GMT -8
Imagine if Andretti showed up and embarrassed themselves and F1, because a megabucks racing team couldn’t design a working wheel nut. Oh, the shame and disrepute they would bring on the pinnacle of motorsport. the other question is why aren't they homologated so everyone uses the same one?
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Post by Placid on Apr 10, 2024 13:19:11 GMT -8
Plan A has failed to purchase Sauber. Plan B was denied by the FIA Teams for their entry. Now Michael Andretti are planning to do the so-called "Paul Heyman Maneuver". Implementing their Plan C on the table into entering the Formula 1 support series. Have some of the best US and Canadian talent in the Formula 2 and Formula 3 series. (Sorry Brock). They will also attempt to link up with a current team while they wait for a 2nd chance on their F1 entry in the future. A possible chance to get The Wheldon Boys into F1. www.planetf1.com/news/andretti-us-focused-f2-f3-plans
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Post by Placid on Apr 10, 2024 13:43:35 GMT -8
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Post by mikey on Apr 11, 2024 4:05:26 GMT -8
I would love for Andretti to join the grid asap and immediately start taking points away from Mercedes, the look on Toto's face would be iconic as his points go down the drain!!
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Post by Pistola on Apr 17, 2024 9:48:49 GMT -8
Story(rumor) on any sale of the second Red Bull team is that it mandates use of the Red Bull powerplant until 2030 and the the second seat must be a RB young driver. I don't see Andretti having anything to do with this deal. Let someone else become Horner's lackey.
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Post by hairyscotsman on Apr 17, 2024 10:29:47 GMT -8
Story(rumor) on any sale of the second Red Bull team is that it mandates use of the Red Bull powerplant until 2030 and the the second seat must be a RB young driver. I don't see Andretti having anything to do with this deal. Let someone else become Horner's lackey. With the rumors today, it sounds like that may be Guenther. Andretti maybe buying Alpine? They've been in communication throughout this, and Alpine has shown signs for a while that they're looking to get out of F1 imho.
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Post by Pistola on Apr 17, 2024 12:54:19 GMT -8
Andretti really hasn't shown much interest in buying anybody since Sauber. Everybody seems to present conditions that they don't want or like.
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Post by mmi16 on Apr 17, 2024 13:16:07 GMT -8
Andretti really hasn't shown much interest in buying anybody since Sauber. Everybody seems to present conditions that they don't want or like. Organizations either want to sell or they don't. Conditions are the tell that they don't want to sell - they just want some dufus to infuse capital in their organization and have no say in what is going on.
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Post by hairyscotsman on Apr 17, 2024 16:43:32 GMT -8
Andretti really hasn't shown much interest in buying anybody since Sauber. Everybody seems to present conditions that they don't want or like. Organizations either want to sell or they don't. Conditions are the tell that they don't want to sell - they just want some dufus to infuse capital in their organization and have no say in what is going on. Yeah that's the exact shit Rausing pulled, changing the Sauber deal at the last minute after weeks of expensive due diligence by Andretti's people. F that POS. After that fuckery, I don't blame them if they don't wanna buy a team, and I prefer that they get in the other way ... but who nows what's going on behind the scenes between Andretti, the teams, FOM, etc. Nobody's saying shit, except Andretti saying they're pressing on and plan to be on the grid.
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Post by hairyscotsman on Apr 17, 2024 17:35:25 GMT -8
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Post by jmjgt on Apr 17, 2024 18:39:46 GMT -8
Andretti opening a new factory effectively kills all of the buy-in rumors, which effectively kills the over-inflated valuations of the teams. As much as the the motor press fever dreams that "their" sport is worth entering at any cost at some point it's going to be more efficient to start your project from the ground up. I mean did Aston/Stroll run around looking for a factory to buy cheap, or did he just build his own? Red Bull Jr and Alpine have essentially the infrastructure THEY want, it's worth what it's worth to THEM, not to someone that has their own ideas about how they want to go about things. This is one of the unspoken things Andretti is doing that rubs the snobs the wrong way.
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Post by hairyscotsman on Apr 19, 2024 16:56:55 GMT -8
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Post by racerman967 on Apr 23, 2024 14:07:21 GMT -8
Williams is worth very little at this point as they have shown they are woefully behind the times and are basically a "fixer upper" team. And Alipine is not far behind
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Post by olderguysrule on Apr 23, 2024 16:28:02 GMT -8
Williams is worth very little at this point as they have shown they are woefully behind the times and are basically a "fixer upper" team. And Alipine is not far behind very little is relative. last year haas was the lowest valued team. about $750m if I remember correctly. Williams value was north of 1 billion
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Post by racerman967 on Apr 23, 2024 17:48:50 GMT -8
Williams is worth very little at this point as they have shown they are woefully behind the times and are basically a "fixer upper" team. And Alipine is not far behind very little is relative. last year haas was the lowest valued team. about $750m if I remember correctly. Williams value was north of 1 billion Only if someone will pay it. Just like other assets, if I need to spend 250 million to rehab the asset I take that off the value
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Post by mmi16 on Apr 24, 2024 5:15:14 GMT -8
There is the sellers valuation of the asset and the buyers valuation of the same asset. At the start of negotiations those valuations are far, far apart.
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