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Post by mmi16 on Mar 24, 2022 11:16:24 GMT -8
From the linked article... "The charge was dropped by a prosecutor in February and Troconis’ suspension was lifted. However, the charge was reinstated this month and Troconis (legal name Carlos Eduardo Trocon Ortiz), 42, was arrested by the Talladega (Ala.) County Sheriff’s department on March 18." You still can't be "once again indefinitely suspended".
It's my rant on how inept "journalists" are these days.
The first indefinite suspension was lifted and thus ended. The second indefinite suspension would correctly fall into the category of 'again'; If this one get ended for whatever the reason and then subsequently gets reapplied - that will also fall into the area of 'again'.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2022 7:07:00 GMT -8
You still can't be "once again indefinitely suspended".
It's my rant on how inept "journalists" are these days.
The first indefinite suspension was lifted and thus ended. The second indefinite suspension would correctly fall into the category of 'again'; If this one get ended for whatever the reason and then subsequently gets reapplied - that will also fall into the area of 'again'. Next time, I'll have to remember to actually look-up what a word means, instead of what I think it means. Carry on.
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Post by Zytes on Mar 25, 2022 7:39:03 GMT -8
The first indefinite suspension was lifted and thus ended. The second indefinite suspension would correctly fall into the category of 'again'; If this one get ended for whatever the reason and then subsequently gets reapplied - that will also fall into the area of 'again'. Next time, I'll have to remember to actually look-up what a word means, instead of what I think it means. Carry on.
You were not incorrect though Sir, but you used logic, and this is Nascar. The rule book is written in crayon but, unlike F1, Nascar ain't even got the balls to let us see what rules they are not properly following.
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Post by Zytes on Mar 25, 2022 11:34:30 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2022 11:51:52 GMT -8
^ Dumb-asses.
You either fucked with a part or you didn't.
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Post by mmi16 on Mar 25, 2022 12:46:01 GMT -8
^ Dumb-asses. You either fucked with a part or you didn't. You forget NASCAR 'rules'. Fucking is legal until it isn't at the sole discretion of NASCAR without prior notice.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2022 5:00:07 GMT -8
^ Dumb-asses. You either fucked with a part or you didn't. You forget NASCAR 'rules'. Fucking is legal until it isn't at the sole discretion of NASCAR without prior notice. NASCAR stated at the start of this season that certain supplied parts were not to be modified in any way.
Of course, Kez is stupid so what do we expect?
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Post by mmi16 on Mar 26, 2022 5:28:54 GMT -8
You forget NASCAR 'rules'. Fucking is legal until it isn't at the sole discretion of NASCAR without prior notice. NASCAR stated at the start of this season that certain supplied parts were not to be modified in any way.
Of course, Kez is stupid so what do we expect?
And we still don't know what part was modified and in what way it was 'modified'. Unless NASCAR gets more specific, this is just NASCAR being NASCAR because it can.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2022 6:32:05 GMT -8
NASCAR stated at the start of this season that certain supplied parts were not to be modified in any way.
Of course, Kez is stupid so what do we expect?
And we still don't know what part was modified and in what way it was 'modified'. Unless NASCAR gets more specific, this is just NASCAR being NASCAR because it can. Well, it's Tuesday.
Will the details of the mystery violation be revealed or not?
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Post by mmi16 on Mar 29, 2022 7:35:56 GMT -8
And we still don't know what part was modified and in what way it was 'modified'. Unless NASCAR gets more specific, this is just NASCAR being NASCAR because it can. Well, it's Tuesday.
Will the details of the mystery violation be revealed or not?
It's NASCAR - obfuscation!
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Post by Zytes on Mar 30, 2022 7:49:34 GMT -8
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Post by Zytes on Mar 30, 2022 7:50:36 GMT -8
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Post by mmi16 on Mar 30, 2022 8:29:42 GMT -8
I feature teams not getting wheels affixed securely is more NASCAR's problem that it is the teams. I feature the wheel/hub interface allows the single lug nut to engage the threads of axle bolt without the wheel being securely seated on the hub pegs. Crewman tightens the single lug with the wheel sitting on top of the hub pegs, tight. As the wheel/tire interacts with the track it has sufficient torque to unseat the wheel off the top of the hub pegs. If the bolt length of the axle is shortened so that threads can only engage when the wheel is properly seated on the hub pegs.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 8:31:22 GMT -8
Well, it's Tuesday.
Will the details of the mystery violation be revealed or not?
It's NASCAR - obfuscation! Probably had to enlarge a bolt hole so they could put the damn thing together.
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Post by r60man on Mar 30, 2022 9:24:47 GMT -8
I feature teams not getting wheels affixed securely is more NASCAR's problem that it is the teams. I feature the wheel/hub interface allows the single lug nut to engage the threads of axle bolt without the wheel being securely seated on the hub pegs. Crewman tightens the single lug with the wheel sitting on top of the hub pegs, tight. As the wheel/tire interacts with the track it has sufficient torque to unseat the wheel off the top of the hub pegs. If the bolt length of the axle is shortened so that threads can only engage when the wheel is properly seated on the hub pegs. I have watched hundreds of Open Wheel and Sports car racing that have used a single lug, since. . .I can not really remember, it has been a long time. I have very few memories of wheels coming off of cars unless there was an accident involved. NASCAR needs to fix this issue, because the teams are not aloud to.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Mar 30, 2022 10:52:01 GMT -8
I feature teams not getting wheels affixed securely is more NASCAR's problem that it is the teams. I feature the wheel/hub interface allows the single lug nut to engage the threads of axle bolt without the wheel being securely seated on the hub pegs. Crewman tightens the single lug with the wheel sitting on top of the hub pegs, tight. As the wheel/tire interacts with the track it has sufficient torque to unseat the wheel off the top of the hub pegs. If the bolt length of the axle is shortened so that threads can only engage when the wheel is properly seated on the hub pegs. Yeah that was my initial reaction as well. On our GTP cars the nut would not grab a thread without the pins being in the wheels.
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Post by mmi16 on Mar 30, 2022 11:39:51 GMT -8
I feature teams not getting wheels affixed securely is more NASCAR's problem that it is the teams. I feature the wheel/hub interface allows the single lug nut to engage the threads of axle bolt without the wheel being securely seated on the hub pegs. Crewman tightens the single lug with the wheel sitting on top of the hub pegs, tight. As the wheel/tire interacts with the track it has sufficient torque to unseat the wheel off the top of the hub pegs. If the bolt length of the axle is shortened so that threads can only engage when the wheel is properly seated on the hub pegs. Yeah that was my initial reaction as well. On our GTP cars the nut would not grab a thread without the pins being in the wheels. I think you mentioned something about that in the past.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 11:54:12 GMT -8
I feature teams not getting wheels affixed securely is more NASCAR's problem that it is the teams. I feature the wheel/hub interface allows the single lug nut to engage the threads of axle bolt without the wheel being securely seated on the hub pegs. Crewman tightens the single lug with the wheel sitting on top of the hub pegs, tight. As the wheel/tire interacts with the track it has sufficient torque to unseat the wheel off the top of the hub pegs. If the bolt length of the axle is shortened so that threads can only engage when the wheel is properly seated on the hub pegs. Yeah that was my initial reaction as well. On our GTP cars the nut would not grab a thread without the pins being in the wheels. I'll bet the NASCAR design looked good on the computer.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Mar 30, 2022 12:42:31 GMT -8
Yeah that was my initial reaction as well. On our GTP cars the nut would not grab a thread without the pins being in the wheels. I think you mentioned something about that in the past. I thought I did, but cannot find it!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 13:04:23 GMT -8
I think you mentioned something about that in the past. I thought I did, but cannot find it! You did, I remember it.
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