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Post by overboost on Nov 16, 2021 8:29:46 GMT -8
My point is, the circus the Sky team was making of the entire weekend had that been anyone else other than Russel or Lando they would have made it out to be a normal boring race. They didn't mention the dominance of the car ONCE yesterday or on Saturday. I am not upset with the outcome of the race anyone with half a brain knew Max wasn't going to win. After this weekend I bet Redbull take as much wing out of that car as they can for the next three races...... I keep pointing out that it's the Brit feed so what do you expect. The Dutch feed goes nuts for Max. The Spanish feed goes nuts for Fernando and so on.... But still, coming from 20th to 5th in 24 laps and then tenth to first in the race is no small feat. As was noted, no one has won Brazil from lower than 8th. So yes, it is a big deal. It is a bit bizarre that the Brits a full supporters of the German team. McLaren and Williams are forgotten. |
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Post by overboost on Nov 16, 2021 8:33:18 GMT -8
Max did a great job of keeping his car under control during his defense of Lewis's attack.
He was on the limit.
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Post by pushtopass on Nov 16, 2021 8:46:02 GMT -8
Max did a great job of keeping his car under control during his defense of Lewis's attack. He was on the limit. Yes; he dive bombed and gained an advantage by going off track. The only reason they didn't crash is because Lewis is smart enough to know it wasn't worth it. I mean, it's pretty straightforward to just brake late if you are a bit behind on the inside and push the other driver off the track. |
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Post by pushtopass on Nov 16, 2021 8:48:09 GMT -8
I keep pointing out that it's the Brit feed so what do you expect. The Dutch feed goes nuts for Max. The Spanish feed goes nuts for Fernando and so on.... But still, coming from 20th to 5th in 24 laps and then tenth to first in the race is no small feat. As was noted, no one has won Brazil from lower than 8th. So yes, it is a big deal. It is a bit bizarre that the Brits a full supporters of the German team. McLaren and Williams are forgotten. McLaren and Lando get a lot of love, and to imagine that George is ignored in the Williams would be.....interesting. I think that other than Ferrari and the Italians, most people follow drivers more than teams from a nationality standpoint (and basically Mercedes F1 is essentially British across the board other than funding, anyway). |
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Post by jfme on Nov 16, 2021 9:23:30 GMT -8
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS....Silverstone.  5 second penalty for causing collision. Wait...there was no collision. Genius move from Max. Harsh racing but nothing illegal |
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Post by pushtopass on Nov 16, 2021 9:32:36 GMT -8
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS....Silverstone. 5 second penalty for causing collision. Wait...there was no collision. Genius move from Max. Harsh racing but nothing illegal So the key is to allow the divebombing driver to hit you so they get a penalty? That makes zero sense. He gained an advantage by going off the track (he was behind at the braking point). |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Nov 16, 2021 10:00:46 GMT -8
All of the outraged Hammy lovers should really review this before throwing stones.
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Post by jfme on Nov 16, 2021 10:08:34 GMT -8
5 second penalty for causing collision. Wait...there was no collision. Genius move from Max. Harsh racing but nothing illegal So the key is to allow the divebombing driver to hit you so they get a penalty? That makes zero sense. He gained an advantage by going off the track (he was behind at the braking point). Hamilton overshoot braking and divebombed out of the track as well. Should he get a penalty too? |
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Post by boiler on Nov 16, 2021 10:09:40 GMT -8
All of the outraged Hammy lovers should really review this before throwing stones. They forgot the time Lewis ran Nico within an inch of the pit wall, I forget where it happened........ |
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Post by mmi16 on Nov 16, 2021 10:25:58 GMT -8
If it wasn't to be driven upon - it would not be paved.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Nov 16, 2021 10:56:11 GMT -8
If it wasn't to be driven upon - it would not be paved. This is true. Nether of them would have gone into that corner that hot if that paved run off area was a gravel trap. |
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Post by pushtopass on Nov 16, 2021 11:12:29 GMT -8
All of the outraged Hammy lovers should really review this before throwing stones. They forgot the time Lewis ran Nico within an inch of the pit wall, I forget where it happened........ I was thinking of that when Max pushed him left in Texas this year. But the question is; was Hamilton penalized for those crashes? In most or many of the cases the answer is yes. |
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Post by pushtopass on Nov 16, 2021 11:13:52 GMT -8
If it wasn't to be driven upon - it would not be paved. This is true. Nether of them would have gone into that corner that hot if that paved run off area was a gravel trap. The difference is that Lewis could have made the corner at the speed he entered. He had to unwind the wheel to avoid Max. Actually Max probably could have stayed on the track, too, if he had actually turned in. |
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Post by Boomer on Nov 16, 2021 11:36:48 GMT -8
^  Attention All Drivers: pull off-line and make way! Lewis coming through!!!  |
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Post by Boomer on Nov 16, 2021 11:52:35 GMT -8
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS....Silverstone. 5 second penalty for causing collision. Wait...there was no collision. Genius move from Max. Harsh racing but nothing illegal
"When always the decisions swing against you, it's just something that I'm just angry about, and I will defend my team, my drivers to what comes.
"I've always been very diplomatic in how I discuss things. But diplomacy has ended today." - Total Wolff
-----------------------------("When always the decisions swing against you...") Whaaatt?Toto Wolff has come unhinged!  |
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Post by pushtopass on Nov 16, 2021 12:02:40 GMT -8
^ Attention All Drivers: pull off-line and make way! Lewis coming through!!! If Max would have stayed on the track that would be a different story. Clearly he was overly optimistic and gained an advantage. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Nov 16, 2021 12:27:38 GMT -8
But the question is; was Hamilton penalized for those crashes? In most or many of the cases the answer is yes. But Hammy was not penalized in all of them. That is all that needs to be said. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Nov 16, 2021 12:36:34 GMT -8
Oh no. Perez stealing fastest lap from king Lewis. What a disgrace. Mercedes would never show such unsporting behavior...LOL. Exactly. At this point, with this appeal to reopen the incident, I can no longer muster up any respect at all for Mercedes AMG F1 ... after winning in utterly dominant fashion despite being caught with an illegal car & being lucky that it was a sprint weekend, then crying after the race about another driver doing the same thing that Lewis has done to win a championship in the past, without even an investigation iirc. They've had a massive advantage since before this PU era even started, and lobbied hard to entrench it with the idiotic and incredibly restrictive token system. This kind of behavior after all of their success is a really bad look imho. Fuck crying Lewis and bitchass Toto. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Nov 16, 2021 12:39:41 GMT -8
Breaking news the guy with the fastest car all weekend won the race..... You could also argue the sprint race also saved his ass, he would have probably finished second if this was a normal weekend. Yes, of course the sprint race saved Lewis's ass. He'd have been last on the race grid in a normal weekend. And not having to start in the pit lane for the sprint helped, too. Why was he allowed to start at the back of the grid? |
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Post by mmi16 on Nov 16, 2021 12:46:39 GMT -8
^ Attention All Drivers: pull off-line and make way! Lewis coming through!!! If Max would have stayed on the track that would be a different story. Clearly he was overly optimistic and gained an advantage. If it is not supposed to be driven upon - it should not be paved. Drivers 'pay' for the ENTIRE track, they intend to use it. |
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