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Post by wilmywood8455 on May 24, 2021 8:49:20 GMT -8
^ So, the Nut-Gun must have been improperly/incompletely mated to the nut for that to happen. From wear? That, or the mechanic started it spinning before it was seated. That works in Nascar, not in F1. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 8:51:58 GMT -8
It's Da Man trying to keep Botox down.
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Post by olderguysrule on May 24, 2021 9:22:11 GMT -8
^^ Thanx. That clip explains it to this old dog. :-) The last time I had a car with the nut thing was back in 67 when I owned a 63 TR4. Wire wheels with knockoffs. I kept a lead hammer in the trunk. :-) |
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Post by boomer on May 24, 2021 11:01:02 GMT -8
The demasculinization of Bottas continues in earnest. Ouch! That sounds painful. I hope, for Val's sake, it doesn't end with full castration.  |
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Post by mmi16 on May 24, 2021 11:14:49 GMT -8
^ So, the Nut-Gun must have been improperly/incompletely mated to the nut for that to happen. From wear? I would tend to think that the nut was not properly heat treated and hardened. I suspect that gun operators have the gun running when they reach in to removed the nut as well as having it running when they reach in to afix the nut. Pit Stops would be much more than the normal 2 seconds if the gun operators waited until the gun was properly seated on the nut BEFORE pulling the trigger. While the socket used to remove the wheel nuts needs to be hardened - the wheel nuts need to be even harder. |
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Post by olderguysrule on May 24, 2021 11:56:35 GMT -8
www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-leclerc-monaco-qualifying-crash/6515117/Ferrari uncovers cause of Leclerc's Monaco driveshaft hub failure By: Jonathan Noble May 24, 2021, 12:44 PM Ferrari believes that the broken driveshaft hub that prevented Charles Leclerc starting Formula 1’s Monaco Grand Prix was indeed damaged in his qualifying crash – but this was not detected in its regular pre-race checks.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on May 24, 2021 12:01:54 GMT -8
^ So, the Nut-Gun must have been improperly/incompletely mated to the nut for that to happen. From wear? I suspect that gun operators have the gun running when they reach in to removed the nut as well as having it running when they reach in to afix the nut. I doubt that it's supposed to be spinning on the way in to remove the wheel. If you look at the socket in my earlier post, the drive splines in the socket are tapered at the end making it easy to engage the splines.
I'd bet the guy hit the trigger an instant too early and that was that. No problem having it spinning on the tighten cycle, the nut will spin then.
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Post by pushtopass on May 24, 2021 12:23:53 GMT -8
I suspect that gun operators have the gun running when they reach in to removed the nut as well as having it running when they reach in to afix the nut. I doubt that it's supposed to be spinning on the way in to remove the wheel. If you look at the socket in my earlier post, the drive splines in the socket are tapered at the end making it easy to engage the splines.
I'd bet the guy hit the trigger an instant too early and that was that. No problem having it spinning on the tighten cycle, the nut will spin then.
I have no idea, but I would be surprised if that was a key thing then it would not actually spin until it touched or there was x lbs of force on the front surface (indicating engagement). Betting a wheel change on someone pressing the button at the exact right time would not be worth it. |
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Post by pushtopass on May 24, 2021 12:24:32 GMT -8
I am waiting for the headline, "Bottas needs to further harden his nuts"
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Post by wilmywood8455 on May 24, 2021 12:58:07 GMT -8
I doubt that it's supposed to be spinning on the way in to remove the wheel. If you look at the socket in my earlier post, the drive splines in the socket are tapered at the end making it easy to engage the splines.
I'd bet the guy hit the trigger an instant too early and that was that. No problem having it spinning on the tighten cycle, the nut will spin then.
I have no idea, but I would be surprised if that was a key thing then it would not actually spin until it touched or there was x lbs of force on the front surface (indicating engagement). Betting a wheel change on someone pressing the button at the exact right time would not be worth it. I'm all but certain the guy should have waited until the socket was all the way in before triggering it. Given the taper on the splines getting it aligned is no doubt not an issue. |
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Post by jmjgt on May 24, 2021 13:31:27 GMT -8
I have no idea, but I would be surprised if that was a key thing then it would not actually spin until it touched or there was x lbs of force on the front surface (indicating engagement). Betting a wheel change on someone pressing the button at the exact right time would not be worth it. I'm all but certain the guy should have waited until the socket was all the way in before triggering it. Given the taper on the splines getting it aligned is no doubt not an issue. You would think there'd be a clutch in the gun that would engage once the the gun was pushed far enough in (like my hammer drill) but i guess they use that many splines so the socket wont have to rotate as much before it catches. still the question has to be asked why the nut was on SO hard in the first place? Iv'e seen tire stores blast off wheel locks simply by using a tight enough socket on a fast gun. |
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Post by snuffmoviestar on May 24, 2021 13:59:40 GMT -8
If I'm Bottas I refuse to race for Merc again unless the human holding the wheel gun on the front right is replaced. This wasn't the first time an issue arose on that corner.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on May 24, 2021 14:08:00 GMT -8
I'm all but certain the guy should have waited until the socket was all the way in before triggering it. Given the taper on the splines getting it aligned is no doubt not an issue. You would think there'd be a clutch in the gun that would engage once the the gun was pushed far enough in (like my hammer drill) but i guess they use that many splines so the socket wont have to rotate as much before it catches. still the question has to be asked why the nut was on SO hard in the first place? Iv'e seen tire stores blast off wheel locks simply by using a tight enough socket on a fast gun. I don't think the nut was on all that excessively tight. IMO, the socket was spinning and taking the splines on the nut off and by the time the mechanic pulled it back there was not enough spline left to engage when he tried again. |
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Post by wilmywood8455 on May 24, 2021 14:15:43 GMT -8
^ So, the Nut-Gun must have been improperly/incompletely mated to the nut for that to happen. From wear? I would tend to think that the nut was not properly heat treated and hardened. I do believe F1 wheel nuts are aluminum and single use only.
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Post by boomer on May 24, 2021 14:17:08 GMT -8
If I'm Bottas I refuse to race for Merc again unless the human holding the wheel gun on the front right is replaced. This wasn't the first time an issue arose on that corner. Lulu would get away with such a demand, but not Bottas... Nevertheless the Wheelman should be sent back to school for 're-education' at the very least.  |
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Post by Pistola on May 24, 2021 15:59:12 GMT -8
It's a pit stop, shit happens, it's all good.  |
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Post by mmi16 on May 24, 2021 16:36:20 GMT -8
If I'm Bottas I refuse to race for Merc again unless the human holding the wheel gun on the front right is replaced. This wasn't the first time an issue arose on that corner. Lulu would get away with such a demand, but not Bottas... Nevertheless the Wheelman should be sent back to school for 're-education' at the very least. Isn't the crew the same for both Hambone and Bottas? |
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Post by jfme on May 24, 2021 16:39:48 GMT -8
^^ Thanx. That clip explains it to this old dog. :-) The last time I had a car with the nut thing was back in 67 when I owned a 63 TR4. Wire wheels with knockoffs. I kept a lead hammer in the trunk. :-) Rounded that real good |
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Post by safetycar on May 24, 2021 16:59:31 GMT -8
Lulu would get away with such a demand, but not Bottas... Nevertheless the Wheelman should be sent back to school for 're-education' at the very least. Isn't the crew the same for both Hambone and Bottas? I thought each driver had their own pit crew? Maybe I'm wrong. I might be wrong. |
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Post by Pistola on May 24, 2021 17:21:45 GMT -8
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
Jul 12, 2024 22:05:14 GMT -8
Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
Jul 12, 2024 22:05:14 GMT -8