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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Mar 10, 2021 10:24:04 GMT -8
Looks like a dull red turd If it is quick nobody will care what it looks like. |
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Mar 10, 2021 10:30:07 GMT -8
Looks like a dull red turd If it is quick nobody will care what it looks like. Yep. That first matte finish Red Bull looked like a dull blue turd. But it was fast, so no one cared. |
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Post by mmi16 on Mar 10, 2021 13:44:46 GMT -8
Looks like a dull red turd If it is quick nobody will care what it looks like. Ever since Ferrari switched to flat - they have not been quick. |
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Mar 10, 2021 13:53:55 GMT -8
If it is quick nobody will care what it looks like. Ever since Ferrari switched to flat - they have not been quick. Yeah, I'm sure it's the paint  |
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Post by jmjgt on Mar 10, 2021 14:32:16 GMT -8
i remember the 90's when some of the best looking cars had to pre-qualify.
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Post by mmi16 on Mar 10, 2021 15:42:29 GMT -8
Ever since Ferrari switched to flat - they have not been quick. Yeah, I'm sure it's the paint Maybe dull engineering is the cause of the dull paint and dull performance. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Mar 10, 2021 19:02:11 GMT -8
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Post by kingfisher on Mar 10, 2021 23:51:56 GMT -8
Looks like a dull red turd. So much for Leclerc, - - what do you make of Sainz? |
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Post by olderguysrule on Mar 11, 2021 3:55:01 GMT -8
so again we have two cars with the flat paint thing. the red cars and the ded cows. What the story behind this? Or what I would call the root cause. Knowing that Newey prolly had his fingers on the flat paint scheme that's on the ded cows, it's prolly something to do with the Coander effect. If you're close to the front it might make a difference. If you're close to the back who gives a s+++. If you're close to the back it's prolly better to have a good looking paint job as compared to one that looks like it's been on a car that sat in the Texas sun next to your garage for the past 20 years waiting for a new battery or whatever.
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Post by mikey on Mar 11, 2021 5:29:59 GMT -8
so again we have two cars with the flat paint thing. the red cars and the ded cows. What the story behind this? Or what I would call the root cause. Knowing that Newey prolly had his fingers on the flat paint scheme that's on the ded cows, it's prolly something to do with the Coander effect. If you're close to the front it might make a difference. If you're close to the back who gives a s+++. If you're close to the back it's prolly better to have a good looking paint job as compared to one that looks like it's been on a car that sat in the Texas sun next to your garage for the past 20 years waiting for a new battery or whatever. When Red Bull first did it the media speculated that it had to do with the air 'sticking' to the car instead of sliding thru it with the slicker paints, I have no clue if that's really true or if it's even enough to matter since the cars aren't going in a straight line 90% of the time anyway. The problem with alot of wind tunnels is the air only blows straight on to the car so what looks good on paper may not work once the car is repositioned or moving. |
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Post by r60man on Mar 11, 2021 5:42:55 GMT -8
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Post by pushtopass on Mar 11, 2021 9:43:41 GMT -8
so again we have two cars with the flat paint thing. the red cars and the ded cows. What the story behind this? Or what I would call the root cause. Knowing that Newey prolly had his fingers on the flat paint scheme that's on the ded cows, it's prolly something to do with the Coander effect. If you're close to the front it might make a difference. If you're close to the back who gives a s+++. If you're close to the back it's prolly better to have a good looking paint job as compared to one that looks like it's been on a car that sat in the Texas sun next to your garage for the past 20 years waiting for a new battery or whatever. When Red Bull first did it the media speculated that it had to do with the air 'sticking' to the car instead of sliding thru it with the slicker paints, I have no clue if that's really true or if it's even enough to matter since the cars aren't going in a straight line 90% of the time anyway. The problem with alot of wind tunnels is the air only blows straight on to the car so what looks good on paper may not work once the car is repositioned or moving. When they are turning the wind still hits the nose first and, other than the small slip angle, the air basically hits the car straight on. The wind is a different matter. Or am I incorrect on this? I view these cars as going at a much higher forward velocity relative to the turning radius and slip angle such that the primary aim movement direction along the car wouldn't change by more than a few degrees. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Mar 11, 2021 9:43:42 GMT -8
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Post by pushtopass on Mar 11, 2021 9:47:27 GMT -8
Note the camera (?) looking at the driver from the top of the halo! |
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Mar 11, 2021 10:01:45 GMT -8
When Red Bull first did it the media speculated that it had to do with the air 'sticking' to the car instead of sliding thru it with the slicker paints, I have no clue if that's really true or if it's even enough to matter since the cars aren't going in a straight line 90% of the time anyway. The problem with alot of wind tunnels is the air only blows straight on to the car so what looks good on paper may not work once the car is repositioned or moving. When they are turning the wind still hits the nose first and, other than the small slip angle, the air basically hits the car straight on. The wind is a different matter. Or am I incorrect on this? I view these cars as going at a much higher forward velocity relative to the turning radius and slip angle such that the primary aim movement direction along the car wouldn't change by more than a few degrees. I think that's pretty close to right on the money, yes. When I went to work at AAR I was taken aback by the tiny turning radius on a GTP car, the front wheels didn't move more than about 20 degrees either direction from straight, which yields maybe 10 degrees yaw, and that only at full lock either way. At speed the slip angle or yaw would be miniscule.
Here is Kimi in the tightest turn in F1, the Monaco hairpin ...
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Post by mmi16 on Mar 11, 2021 10:30:49 GMT -8
When Red Bull first did it the media speculated that it had to do with the air 'sticking' to the car instead of sliding thru it with the slicker paints, I have no clue if that's really true or if it's even enough to matter since the cars aren't going in a straight line 90% of the time anyway. The problem with alot of wind tunnels is the air only blows straight on to the car so what looks good on paper may not work once the car is repositioned or moving. When they are turning the wind still hits the nose first and, other than the small slip angle, the air basically hits the car straight on. The wind is a different matter. Or am I incorrect on this? I view these cars as going at a much higher forward velocity relative to the turning radius and slip angle such that the primary aim movement direction along the car wouldn't change by more than a few degrees. Why not give all surfaces the golf ball dimple treatment? |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Mar 11, 2021 10:57:19 GMT -8
Note the camera (?) looking at the driver from the top of the halo! Yes, that is an FOM mandated camera. |
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Post by Pistola on Mar 11, 2021 11:02:08 GMT -8
They be honking on Haas.  |
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Post by mmi16 on Mar 11, 2021 12:01:21 GMT -8
They be honking on Haas. Must be a mistake - you can read the car number as it pulls out of the garage. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Mar 11, 2021 13:39:14 GMT -8
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
Jul 12, 2024 22:05:14 GMT -8
Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
Jul 12, 2024 22:05:14 GMT -8