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Post by Placid on Dec 6, 2020 16:01:57 GMT -8
More celebrations from Mexico and even from the AAA Mexican wrestler Blue Demon Jr.
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Post by pushtopass on Dec 6, 2020 16:07:50 GMT -8
George seemed to be able to drive that car in traffic just fine. Lewis usually does as well. It's only Bottas (whose tires were the same age as Checo's) who seems to have problems in traffic.
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Post by hst4me on Dec 6, 2020 16:14:18 GMT -8
LeClerc 3 place grid penalty for racing. Fixed. |
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Post by pushtopass on Dec 6, 2020 16:28:02 GMT -8
LeClerc 3 place grid penalty for racing. Fixed. I think locking up is what cost him. It showed that the move was overly ambitious. |
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Post by overboost on Dec 6, 2020 17:45:48 GMT -8
Yes. Leclerc lost control of his car. So penalty goes to him.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Dec 6, 2020 17:55:12 GMT -8
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Post by Codfish on Dec 6, 2020 19:51:18 GMT -8
Just watched the Sakhir DVR, and all I can say is that was one hell of an entertaining race... As Jeremy Clarkson would say, "More of that please..."
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Post by Placid on Dec 6, 2020 22:51:33 GMT -8
Red Bull, Alpha. Time to give Perez a chance. Or 1 of Checo's fans will not be happy. Especially this Alexander Rossi one.  |
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Post by r60man on Dec 7, 2020 5:06:30 GMT -8
Red Bull, Alpha. Time to give Perez a chance. Or 1 of Checo's fans will not be happy. Especially this Alexander Rossi one. Red Bull is the only seat worthy of Checo. Max's worst nightmare, having a competitive teammate. Alpha would be a waste. |
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Post by pushtopass on Dec 7, 2020 5:29:34 GMT -8
I was trying to think back through the race. Did George put a tire wrong all day? I didn't see any big lock ups or ill-advised overtakes when he got pushed back into the pack. He did have at least one track limits infraction. All in all, though, a good drive in a good car.
Speaking of maturity, I was impressed that Max braked early into 4, seeing the potential CF developing. He still got caught in it, unfortuntately, but Leclerc was the stand in for the Max of two years ago.
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Post by Placid on Dec 7, 2020 6:33:45 GMT -8
I was trying to think back through the race. Did George put a tire wrong all day? I didn't see any big lock ups or ill-advised overtakes when he got pushed back into the pack. He did have at least one track limits infraction. All in all, though, a good drive in a good car. Speaking of maturity, I was impressed that Max braked early into 4, seeing the potential CF developing. He still got caught in it, unfortuntately, but Leclerc was the stand in for the Max of two years ago. I believe that Bottas received Russell's old tires in his car without knowing that Bottas new rubber was on the bottom of Russell's old tires. |
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Post by olderguysrule on Dec 7, 2020 6:39:03 GMT -8
throughout last week we talked about the mercs. Their success is 90 percent the car and so on. plug in anybody who can drive a F1 2020 car and they'd succeed and so on. plug in anybody and most would be like bottax. over a season maybe a couple wins. maybe a pole position or two. this guy Russell is something different. after he got shuffled back the talking heads were going on and on how the merc doesn't perform well when in traffic and so on. well, twice he went thru traffic like a hot knife thru butter. That was the impressive part to me.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Dec 7, 2020 7:08:18 GMT -8
I was trying to think back through the race. Did George put a tire wrong all day? I didn't see any big lock ups or ill-advised overtakes when he got pushed back into the pack. He did have at least one track limits infraction. All in all, though, a good drive in a good car. Speaking of maturity, I was impressed that Max braked early into 4, seeing the potential CF developing. He still got caught in it, unfortuntately, but Leclerc was the stand in for the Max of two years ago. I believe that Bottas received Russell's old tires in his car without knowing that Bottas new rubber was on the bottom of Russell's old tires. Bottas' tires, I believe, were removed, and once it was discovered the ones that were intended to go on his car had been put on Russell's by mistake, put back on, so he had NO tire change. Otherwise they'd have been penalized/fined for him also. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Dec 7, 2020 10:18:13 GMT -8
throughout last week we talked about the mercs. Their success is 90 percent the car and so on. plug in anybody who can drive a F1 2020 car and they'd succeed and so on. plug in anybody and most would be like bottax. over a season maybe a couple wins. maybe a pole position or two. this guy Russell is something different. after he got shuffled back the talking heads were going on and on how the merc doesn't perform well when in traffic and so on. well, twice he went thru traffic like a hot knife thru butter. That was the impressive part to me. Russell is clearly very good, but so are many other drivers. It's the car. There are at least eight other drivers on the current grid that could have done as well as Russell or even better in the same situation. Bottas is a B-/C level driver at best. A doormat. Verstappen agrees. www.grandprix247.com/2020/11/09/verstappen-90-of-the-field-could-win-in-the-mercedes/ |
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Post by jmjgt on Dec 7, 2020 10:49:34 GMT -8
throughout last week we talked about the mercs. Their success is 90 percent the car and so on. plug in anybody who can drive a F1 2020 car and they'd succeed and so on. plug in anybody and most would be like bottax. over a season maybe a couple wins. maybe a pole position or two. this guy Russell is something different. after he got shuffled back the talking heads were going on and on how the merc doesn't perform well when in traffic and so on. well, twice he went thru traffic like a hot knife thru butter. That was the impressive part to me. Russell is clearly very good, but so are many other drivers. It's the car. There are at least eight other drivers on the current grid that could have done as well as Russell or even better in the same situation. Bottas is a B-/C level driver at best. A doormat. Verstappen agrees. www.grandprix247.com/2020/11/09/verstappen-90-of-the-field-could-win-in-the-mercedes/Since the cars won't change much between seasons the Red Bull should be strong from the start next year. But given Merc is already saying they've made up for the lost floor area on next year's car maybe work on the 2022 car needs to be RB's priority. |
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Post by pushtopass on Dec 7, 2020 10:56:57 GMT -8
throughout last week we talked about the mercs. Their success is 90 percent the car and so on. plug in anybody who can drive a F1 2020 car and they'd succeed and so on. plug in anybody and most would be like bottax. over a season maybe a couple wins. maybe a pole position or two. this guy Russell is something different. after he got shuffled back the talking heads were going on and on how the merc doesn't perform well when in traffic and so on. well, twice he went thru traffic like a hot knife thru butter. That was the impressive part to me. Russell is clearly very good, but so are many other drivers. It's the car. There are at least eight other drivers on the current grid that could have done as well as Russell or even better in the same situation. Bottas is a B-/C level driver at best. A doormat. Verstappen agrees. www.grandprix247.com/2020/11/09/verstappen-90-of-the-field-could-win-in-the-mercedes/Of course Verstappen has never driven the Mercedes. And all of this, is course, was what drove the Race of Champions. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Dec 7, 2020 11:46:13 GMT -8
Of course Verstappen has never driven the Mercedes. And all of this, is course, was what drove the Race of Champions. Max hasn't but Russell has and the ease of his performance proves everything. The car is the GOAT. I know you want Lewis to be the GOAT but Russell ended that. |
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Post by pushtopass on Dec 7, 2020 12:40:24 GMT -8
I went back and looked at the tire data. At the end of the race Bottas was floundering on hard tires that were one lap newer than Perez's hards (Perez checked out at the front), about six laps newer than Ocon's hards, and about five laps newer than Stroll's mediums. Hmmmmm.....
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Post by pushtopass on Dec 7, 2020 12:49:10 GMT -8
Of course Verstappen has never driven the Mercedes. And all of this, is course, was what drove the Race of Champions. Max hasn't but Russell has and the ease of his performance proves everything. The car is the GOAT. I know you want Lewis to be the GOAT but Russell ended that. I've never considered Hamilton the GOAT, but he's certainly the top driver over the last decade or so. Keep in mind that in the same car he has beaten three WDCs. How many WDCs has Max beaten? I also consider Max to be Lewis' equal. The greatest driver in the world is not going to win the WDC or even a race in this year's Williams or Haas so yes, the car plays a big role. But remember that though Russell did very well this weekend, he has been flogging the shit out of that Williams to a into territory that car has no business being. Leclerc has similar potential. But to win seven WDCs for two different teams over more than a decade takes more than just speed. This has been stated by multiple WDCs. Winning one is amazing but winning multiple is an entirely different thing. Lewis has shown that he has the mental and physical stamina and toughness to keep pushing year after year. Max probably can as well. I do not think Lewis is the GOAT and clearly if he was driving the Williams he would not be winning championships, but the multiple WDC-winning drivers have always had a car that was top notch. Winning 7 WDCs for two different teams is a major accomplishment in motorsports. I am puzzled why so many people want to belittle his accomplishments. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Dec 7, 2020 12:50:32 GMT -8
I went back and looked at the tire data. At the end of the race Bottas was floundering on hard tires that were one lap newer than Perez's hards (Perez checked out at the front), about six laps newer than Ocon's hards, and about five laps newer than Stroll's mediums. Hmmmmm..... Bottas is probably the weakest teammate to a world champion since Satoru Nakajima was paired with Senna at McLaren. |
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
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