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Post by Pistola on Nov 2, 2019 8:00:59 GMT -8
Looking through the tech regs it looks like the business model as far as parts etc. that Haas has been using is still existent. Things like the safety cell/tub etc. have to be Haas's ip but can still be made by a 3rd party like Dallara. Suspension parts can still come from and be the same as another team etc.
Despite the wailing from the Isles life goes on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 12:20:57 GMT -8
Whinge, whinge, whinge  |
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Post by mmi16 on Nov 2, 2019 16:18:23 GMT -8
F1 is the known haunt of Gamers of the System - 2021 regs are just a new game to be gamed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 4:57:04 GMT -8
Wouldn't it be easier to just take their suspension parts?  |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Nov 3, 2019 6:23:48 GMT -8
Marko hates it so it must be a good thing. www.planetf1.com/news/marko-fears-driver-blackmail-and-salary-hikes/With the gap between the cars expected to lessen, it will place emphasis on the drivers.
And that, Marko fears, could let to a steep increase in salaries as the best of the best demand more.
“When the cars get more alike, the drivers will be the most important factor again,” the Red Bull advisor told Autoweek.com.
“Drivers like (Lewis) Hamilton, (Max) Verstappen and (Charles) Leclerc will benefit.
“If they disagree, they can blackmail the teams and it can quickly cost you $50 million.
“It was a mistake to not put the driver salaries into the budget cap.”
McLaren CEO Zak Brown has similar concerns.
“It was a mistake to take the drivers out,” he said.
“Along with the car, they are a factor that determines the lap time.
“If they were part of the budget, the teams would have to decide to invest their money in the driver or the car.
“That’s the point of a budget cap. The prize is for the one who uses their money the most sensibly.” |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 7:34:57 GMT -8
What a load of CRAP!
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Post by Pistola on Nov 3, 2019 9:41:51 GMT -8
Marko hates it so it must be a good thing. www.planetf1.com/news/marko-fears-driver-blackmail-and-salary-hikes/With the gap between the cars expected to lessen, it will place emphasis on the drivers.
And that, Marko fears, could let to a steep increase in salaries as the best of the best demand more.
“When the cars get more alike, the drivers will be the most important factor again,” the Red Bull advisor told Autoweek.com.
“Drivers like (Lewis) Hamilton, (Max) Verstappen and (Charles) Leclerc will benefit.
“If they disagree, they can blackmail the teams and it can quickly cost you $50 million.
“It was a mistake to not put the driver salaries into the budget cap.”
McLaren CEO Zak Brown has similar concerns.
“It was a mistake to take the drivers out,” he said.
“Along with the car, they are a factor that determines the lap time.
“If they were part of the budget, the teams would have to decide to invest their money in the driver or the car.
“That’s the point of a budget cap. The prize is for the one who uses their money the most sensibly.”I'm thinking after years of Marko beating up drivers they may get payback. Right behind a good aero background accounting is now the hot path to a job in F1.  |
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Post by jmjgt on Nov 3, 2019 10:20:46 GMT -8
The Evil One is so used to treating drivers like cattle the concept of asking a team to pay a premium for for one's services is "blackmail" to him.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 12:50:35 GMT -8
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Post by mmi16 on Nov 3, 2019 17:49:24 GMT -8
Marko hates it so it must be a good thing. www.planetf1.com/news/marko-fears-driver-blackmail-and-salary-hikes/With the gap between the cars expected to lessen, it will place emphasis on the drivers.
And that, Marko fears, could let to a steep increase in salaries as the best of the best demand more.
“When the cars get more alike, the drivers will be the most important factor again,” the Red Bull advisor told Autoweek.com.
“Drivers like (Lewis) Hamilton, (Max) Verstappen and (Charles) Leclerc will benefit.
“If they disagree, they can blackmail the teams and it can quickly cost you $50 million.
“It was a mistake to not put the driver salaries into the budget cap.”
McLaren CEO Zak Brown has similar concerns.
“It was a mistake to take the drivers out,” he said.
“Along with the car, they are a factor that determines the lap time.
“If they were part of the budget, the teams would have to decide to invest their money in the driver or the car.
“That’s the point of a budget cap. The prize is for the one who uses their money the most sensibly.”If the point is to limit expenditures - why is anyone exempt? Drivers, Team Principals are all monetary drains on the bottom line. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Nov 4, 2019 5:53:45 GMT -8
Marko hates it so it must be a good thing. www.planetf1.com/news/marko-fears-driver-blackmail-and-salary-hikes/With the gap between the cars expected to lessen, it will place emphasis on the drivers.
And that, Marko fears, could let to a steep increase in salaries as the best of the best demand more.
“When the cars get more alike, the drivers will be the most important factor again,” the Red Bull advisor told Autoweek.com.
“Drivers like (Lewis) Hamilton, (Max) Verstappen and (Charles) Leclerc will benefit.
“If they disagree, they can blackmail the teams and it can quickly cost you $50 million.
“It was a mistake to not put the driver salaries into the budget cap.”
McLaren CEO Zak Brown has similar concerns.
“It was a mistake to take the drivers out,” he said.
“Along with the car, they are a factor that determines the lap time.
“If they were part of the budget, the teams would have to decide to invest their money in the driver or the car.
“That’s the point of a budget cap. The prize is for the one who uses their money the most sensibly.”If the point is to limit expenditures - why is anyone exempt? Drivers, Team Principals are all monetary drains on the bottom line. They want drivers and Team Principles to be the stars of the show. |
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Post by mmi16 on Nov 4, 2019 6:27:12 GMT -8
If the point is to limit expenditures - why is anyone exempt? Drivers, Team Principals are all monetary drains on the bottom line. They want drivers and Team Principles to be the stars of the show. And the other capped sports want managers and front office personnel to be the stars? |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Nov 4, 2019 10:36:21 GMT -8
They want drivers and Team Principles to be the stars of the show. And the other capped sports want managers and front office personnel to be the stars? In other sports managers/coaches and front office personnel are stars, sometimes bigger than the players. IE: Jon Gruden with he Raiders. For the most of F1's history the cars and engineering have been the determining factor, the stars, in who wins the Driver's Championship. FOM wants the drivers to be the stars with team principles along for the ride. |
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Post by mmi16 on Nov 4, 2019 11:59:49 GMT -8
And the other capped sports want managers and front office personnel to be the stars? In other sports managers/coaches and front office personnel are stars, sometimes bigger than the players. IE: Jon Gruden with he Raiders. For the most of F1's history the cars and engineering have been the determining factor, the stars, in who wins the Driver's Championship. FOM wants the drivers to be the stars with team principles along for the ride. This whole exercise by F1 is the Con man trying to get one to follow the 'pea' under the three cups. Legerdemain! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 13:05:14 GMT -8
^ Good call! "a classic piece of management legerdemain" - (Google search) |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Nov 6, 2019 17:51:49 GMT -8
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Post by mmi16 on Nov 6, 2019 19:58:42 GMT -8
Cost cap is much too high. $75M or $100M is more realistic. The top 3 can afford to spend to the max - the other 7 can't; $175M is not a level playing field - the cap makes the field a mountain for the little 7 to try and climb.. They are talking about the cars being 2.5 to 3 seconds slower - what BS after the engineers read and begin working with the rule - my guess is the cars will be 1 to 1.5 seconds faster. The 2nd thing the aero engineers are working, as they have been for years, is making the air coming off the rear of the cars 'unraceable'. The rules may want raceable - the teams don't want anybody following them. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 10:19:47 GMT -8
^ Without a truckload of money, you don't belong in F1. This is the "Big League".  |
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Post by mmi16 on Nov 7, 2019 11:13:02 GMT -8
^ Without a truckload of money, you don't belong in F1. This is the "Big League". $75M or $100M is already several truck loads. The Big Leagues under a $175M cap is a sham league. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 11:54:58 GMT -8
Formula One racing has grown well beyond the means and aspirations of most of it's followers, I'm afraid.
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA