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Post by pushtopass on Sept 14, 2020 5:08:32 GMT -8
Checo is exactly what RBR need in that 2nd seat. Will they realize that & pull the trigger? Who knows... I never got the feeling that Max GAF about who he drives against. He is mentally strong. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Sept 14, 2020 5:37:04 GMT -8
Checo is exactly what RBR need in that 2nd seat. Will they realize that & pull the trigger? Who knows... I never got the feeling that Max GAF about who he drives against. He is mentally strong. Exactly, and I don't think Checo would be a major threat to Max anyway. But he's good enough and consistent enough to push Max a little more/more often, and maximize points in that 2nd car. I think Albon can potentially be that guy down the road, but Checo has that consistency now. |
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Post by mmi16 on Sept 14, 2020 6:29:18 GMT -8
I never got the feeling that Max GAF about who he drives against. He is mentally strong. Exactly, and I don't think Checo would be a major threat to Max anyway. But he's good enough and consistent enough to push Max a little more/more often, and maximize points in that 2nd car. I think Albon can potentially be that guy down the road, but Checo has that consistency now. RB has never been BIG on bringing in 'experienced' F1 drivers to fill out the team. The prefer to 'grow' their own, Albon fits that mold, Checo doesn't. |
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Post by jmjgt on Sept 14, 2020 9:17:18 GMT -8
Exactly, and I don't think Checo would be a major threat to Max anyway. But he's good enough and consistent enough to push Max a little more/more often, and maximize points in that 2nd car. I think Albon can potentially be that guy down the road, but Checo has that consistency now. RB has never been BIG on bringing in 'experienced' F1 drivers to fill out the team. The prefer to 'grow' their own, Albon fits that mold, Checo doesn't. They haven't brought in an outside driver since Sébastien Bourdais in 2008. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Sept 14, 2020 9:28:33 GMT -8
RB has never been BIG on bringing in 'experienced' F1 drivers to fill out the team. The prefer to 'grow' their own, Albon fits that mold, Checo doesn't. They haven't brought in an outside driver since Sébastien Bourdais in 2008. Yes, and I think Webber was their last non-development driver in a RedBull car. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Sept 14, 2020 10:47:21 GMT -8
No, I agree. They're stubborn about that, but Checo is what they need. Will they sign him? Who knows? But if Noemi's report is true, then at least there's some interest there. She's reliable (and sweet, and very easy on the eyes, but that's a different topic), so I have no reason to doubt her.
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Post by racerman967 on Sept 14, 2020 13:38:24 GMT -8
They haven't brought in an outside driver since Sébastien Bourdais in 2008. Yes, and I think Webber was their last non-development driver in a RedBull car. Correct. He was signed for the 2007 season, which was the second season of Torro Rosso. Since then every driver has come through the junior team. |
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Post by jmjgt on Sept 14, 2020 14:11:29 GMT -8
I honestly don't think there's a huge difference between the RB/AT drivers apart from Max, the problem is the CAR. Horner said Alex is having the same problems Gasly had, that's probably why they're not in a hurry to plug Pierre back in. So for only Max and Ricci had Newey's latest design philosophy's quirks figured out and that's not something you can simply adapt to a incompatible driving style. Albon's current deficiency may in part be the setup changes being made to make him more comfortable in the car slowing the whole package down.
In days of yore the team would put the lead driver in the car for a shakedown to give the team some idea how far astray the other side of the garage was going, now the just look at the data. But that doesn't tell them anything about the car's feel, only the driver can do that.
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Post by mmi16 on Sept 14, 2020 15:09:19 GMT -8
I honestly don't think there's a huge difference between the RB/AT drivers apart from Max, the problem is the CAR. Horner said Alex is having the same problems Gasly had, that's probably why they're not in a hurry to plug Pierre back in. So for only Max and Ricci had Newey's latest design philosophy's quirks figured out and that's not something you can simply adapt to a incompatible driving style. Albon's current deficiency may in part be the setup changes being made to make him more comfortable in the car slowing the whole package down. In days of yore the team would put the lead driver in the car for a shakedown to give the team some idea how far astray the other side of the garage was going, now the just look at the data. But that doesn't tell them anything about the car's feel, only the driver can do that. If we recall Vettel had it all over Webber, then Webber decided to leave F1 and go to Sports Cars - when Ricciardo replaced Webber then Ricciardo seemed to have the advantage on Vettel and Vettel went to Ferrari. Max comes on the scene, as a teenager with no fear and full confidence that he can make the car bend to his will well beyond the laws of physics; exit Ricciardio when he could not match Max's performance. Max is handling a less than superb handling car much better than any of the others that have put their posterior in the car. |
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Post by jmjgt on Sept 14, 2020 15:49:58 GMT -8
I honestly don't think there's a huge difference between the RB/AT drivers apart from Max, the problem is the CAR. Horner said Alex is having the same problems Gasly had, that's probably why they're not in a hurry to plug Pierre back in. So for only Max and Ricci had Newey's latest design philosophy's quirks figured out and that's not something you can simply adapt to a incompatible driving style. Albon's current deficiency may in part be the setup changes being made to make him more comfortable in the car slowing the whole package down. In days of yore the team would put the lead driver in the car for a shakedown to give the team some idea how far astray the other side of the garage was going, now the just look at the data. But that doesn't tell them anything about the car's feel, only the driver can do that. If we recall Vettel had it all over Webber, then Webber decided to leave F1 and go to Sports Cars - when Ricciardo replaced Webber then Ricciardo seemed to have the advantage on Vettel and Vettel went to Ferrari. Max comes on the scene, as a teenager with no fear and full confidence that he can make the car bend to his will well beyond the laws of physics; exit Ricciardio when he could not match Max's performance. Max is handling a less than superb handling car much better than any of the others that have put their posterior in the car. Ricci left because he knew Horner can only focus on one driver at a time, Baku proved that out. |
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Post by mikey on Sept 15, 2020 4:05:14 GMT -8
If we recall Vettel had it all over Webber, then Webber decided to leave F1 and go to Sports Cars - when Ricciardo replaced Webber then Ricciardo seemed to have the advantage on Vettel and Vettel went to Ferrari. Max comes on the scene, as a teenager with no fear and full confidence that he can make the car bend to his will well beyond the laws of physics; exit Ricciardio when he could not match Max's performance. Max is handling a less than superb handling car much better than any of the others that have put their posterior in the car. Ricci left because he knew Horner can only focus on one driver at a time, Baku proved that out. Yup Horner was a butthole to Webber too..."multi 21". |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Sept 24, 2020 5:21:39 GMT -8
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Post by racerman967 on Sept 24, 2020 8:40:07 GMT -8
So there will be actual sponsors on the HAAS F1 car next season. Checo and Hulk next season would be a marked driver improvement.
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Post by mikey on Sept 24, 2020 18:56:54 GMT -8
Should be an end to their mysterious 'brake problems' every race too.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Sept 26, 2020 5:47:54 GMT -8
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Post by jmjgt on Oct 5, 2020 9:16:36 GMT -8
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Post by racerman967 on Oct 5, 2020 15:23:08 GMT -8
So I am beginning to think Mick will be paired with Kimi and Ilott may be paired with Perez at HAAS. Ferrari would likely reduce the costs of parts for HAAS and Perez could be a possible mentor.
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Post by mikey on Oct 5, 2020 18:09:10 GMT -8
^I do agree that both Haas guys need to go, neither seems to be consistent in anything but having problems!! At least new guys would bring new problems and may even give them a decent chance at being near the points at most races. Ducks can't become swans but it would eliminate that the guys are the problem.
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Post by Pistola on Oct 8, 2020 9:32:08 GMT -8
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Oct 8, 2020 14:26:28 GMT -8
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
Jul 12, 2024 22:05:14 GMT -8