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Post by katzevonswish on Sept 29, 2019 5:15:41 GMT -8
Yup, same shit, different team. And I have no interest in "oh, but that's what a real racer does." Screw that, you're either in the stable working for the team or you're undermining the project. Seb's argument appears to be that he felt he would've passed Charles without the slipstream that, as by agreement, Charles had provided for him, therefore the agreement was suddenly nullified. Disingenuous, self-obsessed creep. |
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Post by katzevonswish on Sept 29, 2019 5:16:58 GMT -8
If you expect Vettel to beat Hamilton to secure a WDC and WCC, Ferrari will have to build a car that is 0.3s faster than the Merc. Or plan B, let Charles do it.
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Post by speeddemon787 on Sept 29, 2019 5:21:47 GMT -8
Sky Sports questions is that moronic again. Gosh! Why would you want to prod Vettel into answering it?
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Post by speeddemon787 on Sept 29, 2019 5:22:34 GMT -8
Yup, same shit, different team. And I have no interest in "oh, but that's what a real racer does." Screw that, you're either in the stable working for the team or you're undermining the project. Seb's argument appears to be that he felt he would've passed Charles without the slipstream that, as by agreement, Charles had provided for him, therefore the agreement was suddenly nullified. Disingenuous, self-obsessed creep. Merc GP played that team game perfectly. |
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Post by speeddemon787 on Sept 29, 2019 5:23:41 GMT -8
Next race: Suzuka. Honda's home turf(Actually Motegi)
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Post by katzevonswish on Sept 29, 2019 5:25:24 GMT -8
Yup, same shit, different team. And I have no interest in "oh, but that's what a real racer does." Screw that, you're either in the stable working for the team or you're undermining the project. Seb's argument appears to be that he felt he would've passed Charles without the slipstream that, as by agreement, Charles had provided for him, therefore the agreement was suddenly nullified. Disingenuous, self-obsessed creep. Merc GP played that team game perfectly. Merc favors the faster of their two drivers. Good idea. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2019 5:36:41 GMT -8
Seb's engineer flipped the 'Kill Switch', I think! The 'Hook' would have been too obvious.  |
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Post by montybriscoe on Sept 29, 2019 6:15:15 GMT -8
Haha, so fans hating on LeClerc. When does he get his own thread like Hamilton on here?
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Post by olderguysrule on Sept 29, 2019 7:09:25 GMT -8
this could be a interesting race. the mercs are starting on the medium tires. A safety car at the right, or wrong moment, depending on your viewpoint, could throw a monkey wrench into the red cars dominance. :-) what's the weather forecast? they talked about rain today. that didn't happen. :-) well I saw this one coming yesterday. The mercs on mediums gave them options. and when it happened, lulu and bottax got their pit stops for half the time lost as compared to a normal pit stop. game over. didn't matter if clarles or seb was in front. didn't matter if they stopped seb a lap or two earlier.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2019 7:42:10 GMT -8
Haha, so fans hating on LeClerc. When does he get his own thread like Hamilton on here? The sooner the better! |
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Post by jfme on Sept 29, 2019 9:34:41 GMT -8
Today Ferrari looked like they have 2 very good number two drivers.
Worst mistake was probably telling Leclerc Vettel would not race him the wheels out of his car. Charles needs to watch the old Red Bull races with Webber.
Vettel cant get pole or win nor let Ferrari win
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2019 9:51:03 GMT -8
MrBoerns (@mrboerns) 29th September 2019, 16:20 actually i think they should ban team radio. just imagine if we knew the kind of moaning prost and senna did. or maybe clark was a cringy whiner. Fangio always complaining about Moss defending dirty. Ignorance is Bliss!  |
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Post by Pistola on Sept 29, 2019 10:52:57 GMT -8
Was that really Honda's special Suzuka engine running today?
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Post by Pistola on Sept 29, 2019 10:58:03 GMT -8
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Post by turn8 on Sept 29, 2019 12:17:56 GMT -8
this could be a interesting race. the mercs are starting on the medium tires. A safety car at the right, or wrong moment, depending on your viewpoint, could throw a monkey wrench into the red cars dominance. :-) what's the weather forecast? they talked about rain today. that didn't happen. :-) well I saw this one coming yesterday. The mercs on mediums gave them options. and when it happened, lulu and bottax got their pit stops for half the time lost as compared to a normal pit stop. game over. didn't matter if clarles or seb was in front. didn't matter if they stopped seb a lap or two earlier. Feels really good to be right, doesn't it. 😁 |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Sept 29, 2019 12:55:31 GMT -8
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Post by o on Sept 29, 2019 13:24:29 GMT -8
Albon gained more positions and finished right behind Verstappen.
He earned My drive of the day.
Seb used skills to take the lead not Pepe giving it to him IMOA.
Ferrari's management fucked the whole team's hard work and effort once again.
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Post by jmjgt on Sept 29, 2019 13:46:48 GMT -8
Enzo would have not allowed a driver's feelings to interfere with HIS team like we saw today. Vettel was absolutely right to not give up the lead that early in the race, the Mercs were on harder tires that needed more time to warm up so it made more sense to wait and see what their ultimate pace was. This wasn't like Multi 21, this was about common sense. Switching at the first stop should have been the plan from the beginning (if at all).
If the old man was still around he would've called LeClerc into his office after Singapore and told him he could give a rat's ass who finished in front of who as long as they both were in red cars. And if he couldn't except that enzo would've made sure he finished behind his team mate until he could.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Sept 29, 2019 13:49:29 GMT -8
Karma bit Ferrari right on the ass today. They tried to fuck Vettel by holding him out to ensure the Whiner could pass on the stop, and they ended up with a single third place instead of a one-two.
It's not nice to fuck with Momma Karma. She's a bitch.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Sept 29, 2019 13:52:22 GMT -8
IMHO this whole thing is being blown out of proportion by the media.
Vettel didn't want to give up his position because Hamilton was too close and Vettel thought he was faster. And he proved it by pull away from Leclerc, easily.
Ferrari management corrected the positions, according to the deal that was made before the race, via the pit stops.
Binotto said after the pit stops Vettel was free to race Leclerc and it would have been a good show if Vettel's car had not croaked.
I do not see the turmoil the pundits see.
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