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Post by Sabrina81 on Jan 2, 2022 15:29:58 GMT -8
It takes a real special one to fire someone on their birthday.
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Post by olderguysrule on Jan 2, 2022 17:17:46 GMT -8
my question is the day ron was given a cab ride to the airport by Clemenza or who ever did someone go to his reserved parking space and pee on it and then did anyone go to wash the pee off. :-)
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Post by mikey on Jan 3, 2022 2:28:28 GMT -8
my question is the day ron was given a cab ride to the airport by Clemenza or who ever did someone go to his reserved parking space and pee on it and then did anyone go to wash the pee off. :-) I used to work with guys who peed on their old bosses grave when he died! Now they did it in the middle of the night when no one was watching, but they did it. Stories were he was a real SOB!! These were the same guys that threw a manikin into traffic, again after midnight and ALOT of drinking, and then ran as all the cars thought they threw someone out to get run over. They broke into a clothing store and stole the manikin and were carrying it between them like it was too drunk to walk on its own, they laughed about it for YEARS afterwards. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Jan 3, 2022 8:29:00 GMT -8
I'm not forgetting that. It's just that it loses a bit of luster when you look at how they did it - with massive help from Ferrari and Dallara building most of the car. That's why they've always been shit at development, starting hot and then fading fast. They don't know how the car works, so they don't know how to make it quicker. There's not much there compared to the other teams, which is why Andretti never seriously considered them as a prospective purchase. And now they've basically become a Russian team for the likes of Mazepin. They're in F1 to sell Haas machines to a bigger international market, and that's about it. I think you're over thinking it a bit. We don't know the inner workings nor the funding structure within Haas. In their first five seasons of existence Haas and Renault were side-by-side in the constructors championship. Clearly that is a pot calling the kettle black situation. The last two years Haas has put all their effort into the new car. Which is the right thing to do.
The next few years will tell us everything we need to know about Haas. Sure, that's the right thing to do, just like Alpine did. Alpine basically ran a 3 year old PU design in a 2 year old car, and got P5 in the WCC, beating out 5 teams with better PUs. And I'm sure most of the field not named Mercedes or RBR were doing similar things. But even then, Haas was abysmal and was never even really a threat to score a point. Things like just finishing the race or not running last all weekend were victories for them. And they were close to Renault in the first 3 years with a PU advantage and a 'used Ferrari', but in the last 3 years they haven't been close at all. Renault was running with a pretty significant PU disadvantage to the Ferrari PU then. They probably still are, but in the last 3 years, Haas haven't been close, even with a better PU, finishing P9 or P10 every time compared to Renault/Alpine's P5s all of those years. The last 3 years they've battled for P9 & 10 with Williams & Sauber/Alfa (who have both been just hanging on in F1). I'm not saying they did poorly earlier on. I'm just saying it's not even in the same ballpark in terms of impressiveness as it would have been if they were designing the car on their own and not having it built by someone else. With the advantages they had compared to other new teams we've seen come and go recently, finishing P8 in the WCC early on wasn't surprising at all. They were basically Aston Martin before Merc was designing AM's green Mercs for them. Their first 2 or 3 cars were basically the previous year's Ferrari, just like what AM has done, but built by Dallara. |
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jan 3, 2022 9:25:30 GMT -8
I think you're over thinking it a bit. We don't know the inner workings nor the funding structure within Haas. In their first five seasons of existence Haas and Renault were side-by-side in the constructors championship. Clearly that is a pot calling the kettle black situation. The last two years Haas has put all their effort into the new car. Which is the right thing to do.
The next few years will tell us everything we need to know about Haas. Sure, that's the right thing to do, just like Alpine did. Alpine basically ran a 3 year old PU design in a 2 year old car, and got P5 in the WCC, beating out 5 teams with better PUs. And I'm sure most of the field not named Mercedes or RBR were doing similar things. But even then, Haas was abysmal and was never even really a threat to score a point. Things like just finishing the race or not running last all weekend were victories for them. And they were close to Renault in the first 3 years, but not the last 3. Renault was running with a pretty significant PU disadvantage to the Ferrari PU then. They probably still are, but in the last 3 years, Haas haven't been close, even with a better PU, finishing P9 or P10 every time compared to Renault/Alpine's P5s all of those years. The last 3 years they've battled with Williams & Sauber/Alfa (who have both been just hanging on in F1) over P9 & 10. I'm not saying they did poorly earlier on. I'm just saying it's not even in the same ballmark in terms of impressiveness as it would have been if they were designing the car on their own and not having it built by someone else. With the advantages they had compared to other new teams we've seen come and go recently, finishing P8 in the WCC early on wasn't surprising at all. They were basically Aston Martin before Merc was designing AM's green Mercs for them. Their first 2 or 3 cars were basically the previous year's Ferrari, just like what AM has done, but built by Dallara. Still, it's the pot calling the kettle black. |
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Post by thirddegree on Jan 4, 2022 7:20:16 GMT -8
I'd love it if they'd release it in English.
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
Jul 12, 2024 22:05:14 GMT -8
Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA
Jul 12, 2024 22:05:14 GMT -8