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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jun 6, 2021 16:20:21 GMT -8
lulu keeps talking about how he likes the competition with max this year. This what I see. Back in Imola he tried off road racing. It was the bottax crash that bailed him out of that one. Now today all he has to do is finish the last two laps near the front and he's leading the WDC after what is it, 6 races. But he pushes the magic button at the wrong time. And there's no bottax crash to bail him out. We've seen this before. Back when he drove for Ronzo he didn't have the fastest car and he made mistakes. The guy who makes the least mistakes will prolly win the WDC. Exactly what I was thinking. The Hamilton we have seen in the last two races is the same Hamilton who threw away a WDC in 2007 and 2010.
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Post by jmjgt on Jun 6, 2021 17:07:27 GMT -8
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Post by Red_Hercules on Jun 6, 2021 20:13:54 GMT -8
Time for the ROTFLMAO emoji.
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Post by kidrybot on Jun 7, 2021 0:45:01 GMT -8
Just imagine if F1 would allow someone like Martin Truex Jr. to drive on his home track like Baku
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Post by olderguysrule on Jun 7, 2021 3:52:53 GMT -8
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Post by pushtopass on Jun 7, 2021 3:55:45 GMT -8
And Albon is a.....driver!! Yes, he drove the car but the engineers did all the setup work. You wrote, "Car set up on the fly: driver input". That statement is 100% false and Horner's statements prove it. I said "driver input". You and others like to say the driver plays almost no role. Albon played a key role. The initial set up was not good so, with input from a driver, they improved it. The point being, of course, that throughout racing history there has been discussions about which drivers are better than others at providing such input.
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Post by r60man on Jun 7, 2021 4:40:26 GMT -8
I was boiling with anger over Max's tire explosion and really not happy. Then the restart. And I went back to elated. I do not hate Hamilton, but I do like to see competition. This championship is going to be something extra special. I hope.
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Post by mmi16 on Jun 7, 2021 4:45:38 GMT -8
Pirelli has problems.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jun 7, 2021 7:28:40 GMT -8
Yes, he drove the car but the engineers did all the setup work. You wrote, "Car set up on the fly: driver input". That statement is 100% false and Horner's statements prove it. I said "driver input". You and others like to say the driver plays almost no role. Albon played a key role. The initial set up was not good so, with input from a driver, they improved it. The point being, of course, that throughout racing history there has been discussions about which drivers are better than others at providing such input. No, it isn’t driver input. It’s the engineers trying different set ups and the driver going out and seeing which one produces the best time. In the past drivers had a huge say and how the car would be set up. These days almost nothing. Horner was thinking Albon for putting in all the time on the simulator to work out all the engineers’ set ups. Rumor was it was almost 36 hours straight.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 8:49:34 GMT -8
I said "driver input". You and others like to say the driver plays almost no role. Albon played a key role. The initial set up was not good so, with input from a driver, they improved it. The point being, of course, that throughout racing history there has been discussions about which drivers are better than others at providing such input. No, it isn’t driver input. It’s the engineers trying different set ups and the driver going out and seeing which one produces the best time. In the past drivers had a huge say and how the car would be set up. These days almost nothing. Horner was thinking Albon for putting in all the time on the simulator to work out all the engineers’ set ups. Rumor was it was almost 36 hours straight. Semantics.
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Post by pushtopass on Jun 7, 2021 9:23:15 GMT -8
No, it isn’t driver input. It’s the engineers trying different set ups and the driver going out and seeing which one produces the best time. In the past drivers had a huge say and how the car would be set up. These days almost nothing. Horner was thinking Albon for putting in all the time on the simulator to work out all the engineers’ set ups. Rumor was it was almost 36 hours straight. Semantics. If the driver wasn't important then the engineers would sit in the simulator instead of a driver. Just saying.
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Post by mmi16 on Jun 7, 2021 9:59:39 GMT -8
Engineers have the ability to design 'solutions' on simulators that can't be driven by mere humans.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 10:07:36 GMT -8
If the driver wasn't important then the engineers would sit in the simulator instead of a driver. Just saying. I was agreeing with you.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Jun 7, 2021 10:36:04 GMT -8
If the driver wasn't important then the engineers would sit in the simulator instead of a driver. Just saying. The setups must be tested by a real driver, not an engineer
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Jun 7, 2021 10:36:22 GMT -8
No, it isn’t driver input. It’s the engineers trying different set ups and the driver going out and seeing which one produces the best time. In the past drivers had a huge say and how the car would be set up. These days almost nothing. Horner was thinking Albon for putting in all the time on the simulator to work out all the engineers’ set ups. Rumor was it was almost 36 hours straight. Semantics. No, a real difference
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jun 7, 2021 10:59:11 GMT -8
If the driver wasn't important then the engineers would sit in the simulator instead of a driver. Just saying. But that is not what you first wrote. "Car set up on the fly: driver input", is complete fiction these days and Horner's comments about Albon's simulator work confirms it.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Jun 7, 2021 11:00:41 GMT -8
Exactly. The role of driver these days is very different from what is was just 15 years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 11:25:19 GMT -8
Oh for gods sake, I am agreeing with you guys that a real human must drive the car.
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Jun 7, 2021 11:37:21 GMT -8
Oh for gods sake, I am agreeing with you guys that a real human must drive the car. Good.
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Post by mmi16 on Jun 7, 2021 11:44:30 GMT -8
Exactly. The role of driver these days is very different from what is was just 15 years ago. Maybe we should have driverless cars with Engineers controlling them from the teams home base - 'iRacing with real cars on real tracks'
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