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Post by boomer on Sept 5, 2020 8:15:50 GMT -8
Will Binotto be hung in effigy on Sunday after the race? Upside down?
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Post by racerman967 on Sept 5, 2020 9:07:06 GMT -8
Sainz has to be ecstatic knowing he is going the shit show that is Ferrari while McLaren is getting MB power. Spaniards have serious decision and critical skill issues when picking F1 drives
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Post by mmi16 on Sept 5, 2020 9:10:07 GMT -8
So, just in case this F1 race is boring, here is the Marble circuits Monza 2020 race...(spoiler) The last lap dive bomb pass for the lead through the rumble strips was epic. What is really amazing is how separated 'equal' marbles can get over the distance of the races.
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Post by Pistola on Sept 5, 2020 9:41:58 GMT -8
I'll be interested to see how the new regulations for 2022 "solve" the Mercedes conundrum. Until then I'm not interested. Liberty, Liberty, Liberty.
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Post by Placid on Sept 5, 2020 9:50:16 GMT -8
Welcome to another Mercedes Monsoon in qualifying.
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Post by Placid on Sept 5, 2020 10:16:49 GMT -8
Mick only wished his dad was here sharing this moment with him. And he is in 3rd in the points by 3 points.
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Post by overboost on Sept 5, 2020 12:41:49 GMT -8
So Bottas has been sent out ahead of Hamilton in every session today. No way for Bot to get a tow that way. So no threat to Ham.
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Post by mikey on Sept 5, 2020 15:07:15 GMT -8
Sainz has to be ecstatic knowing he is going the shit show that is Ferrari while McLaren is getting MB power. Spaniards have serious decision and critical skill issues when picking F1 drives I wonder if he has an 'out clause' if he doesn't want to leave?
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Post by montybriscoe on Sept 5, 2020 15:28:27 GMT -8
Sainz has to be ecstatic knowing he is going the shit show that is Ferrari while McLaren is getting MB power. Spaniards have serious decision and critical skill issues when picking F1 drives I wonder if he has an 'out clause' if he doesn't want to leave? Riccairdo has already been signed to replace Sainz. Carlos made his bed.
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Post by pushtopass on Sept 5, 2020 15:31:28 GMT -8
Horner quoted as saying it is obvious that Merc favors Hamilton. Like RB doesn't favor Max? What was funny is that he used the pit stop strategy in Spa as an example. Wasn't that the same race where they put Albon on mediums and made him keep them on forever?
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Post by pushtopass on Sept 5, 2020 15:37:11 GMT -8
So Bottas has been sent out ahead of Hamilton in every session today. No way for Bot to get a tow that way. So no threat to Ham. Bottas said he chose not to get the tow. Their analysis showed it was close either way (which is probably why Hamilton also hung back) and that getting a clean lap without messing about was a potential advantage.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Sept 5, 2020 16:22:57 GMT -8
No way for Bot to get a tow that way. So no threat to Ham. Bottas said he chose not to get the tow. Their analysis showed it was close either way (which is probably why Hamilton also hung back) and that getting a clean lap without messing about was a potential advantage. If that was truly the case why didn't Bottas go out behind Hamilton as he was entitle to do and just hang back like Hamilton did?
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Post by struns on Sept 5, 2020 16:28:10 GMT -8
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Post by pushtopass on Sept 5, 2020 16:38:17 GMT -8
Bottas said he chose not to get the tow. Their analysis showed it was close either way (which is probably why Hamilton also hung back) and that getting a clean lap without messing about was a potential advantage. If that was truly the case why didn't Bottas go out behind Hamilton as he was entitle to do and just hang back like Hamilton did? Because Hamilton had to manage traffic behind to go with warming tires and such. Bottas had a clear shot. I'm just conveying what I read: www.racefans.net/2020/09/05/bottas-explains-decision-not-to-use-hamiltons-slipstream-in-qualifying/
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Post by hst4me on Sept 5, 2020 17:30:56 GMT -8
Bullshit. I'm not going to elaborate but **** me..
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Sept 5, 2020 17:41:01 GMT -8
So Bottas couldn't do the same? Give me a break. Hamilton was at least a third of the racetrack ahead of the following cars. The idea position at Monza is to be around three hundred yards behind your teammate, exactly where Hamilton was. All the drivers talk about it, every year. They all say it is worth at least 3/10ths+. There is zero reason Bottas would want to give up a vital advantage like that unless he has worked out a financial settlement with Mercedes to be the number 2 and support Hamilton until he wins the WDC. Bottas is a doormat.
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Post by montybriscoe on Sept 5, 2020 17:52:06 GMT -8
Mercedes is just fucking with everyone at this point. Hey look! Lewis can take pole and set the fastest lap in the history of F1 without even being in the same zip code as Bottas's slipstream! Anyone who thinks a tow a Monza doesn't matter, aren't paying attention. If Mercedes actually used a tow, there is no reason to think that the pole time couldn't have dipped into the low 1:18s. I think a 1:18.2 was attainable with a tow.
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Post by montybriscoe on Sept 5, 2020 18:09:34 GMT -8
One other thing I noticed after qualifying was that Bottas did not sound like guy who thought being in clean air was the way to go. He really seemed to be lamenting the fact that he never got a tow except for one time. He specifically pointed that out. A driver won't usually point that out if they get the pole. Just saying...
I think some of the fluff that came later was just PR issued by Toto to mask over the fact that Bottas is indeed Hamilton's lap dog.
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Post by mmi16 on Sept 5, 2020 19:08:58 GMT -8
Mercedes is just fucking with everyone at this point. Hey look! Lewis can take pole and set the fastest lap in the history of F1 without even being in the same zip code as Bottas's slipstream! Anyone who thinks a tow a Monza doesn't matter, aren't paying attention. If Mercedes actually used a tow, there is no reason to think that the pole time couldn't have dipped into the low 1:18s. I think a 1:18.2 was attainable with a tow. If the MB's got a legitimate tow - they would have been in the 1:17's
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Post by montybriscoe on Sept 6, 2020 4:57:07 GMT -8
Mercedes is just fucking with everyone at this point. Hey look! Lewis can take pole and set the fastest lap in the history of F1 without even being in the same zip code as Bottas's slipstream! Anyone who thinks a tow a Monza doesn't matter, aren't paying attention. If Mercedes actually used a tow, there is no reason to think that the pole time couldn't have dipped into the low 1:18s. I think a 1:18.2 was attainable with a tow. If the MB's got a legitimate tow - they would have been in the 1:17's Maybe but at least three tenths gained would have put them in the low 1:18s. High 1:17s might have been attainable if they had at least six to seven tenths in the bag with a tow.
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