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Post by ChemEng on Nov 17, 2019 17:34:52 GMT -8
I actually slept through the race. And glad I did. The re-play on F1 TV nearly drove me crazy with Screemin' Simon's breathless commentary! Good grief he is AWFUL! I absolutely was laughing out loud as they got all excited about Hamilton passing Max, but it was Albon. Could they not see the yellow top cover!?  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 18:10:03 GMT -8
"Oh Well..." |
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Post by Pistola on Nov 17, 2019 19:09:28 GMT -8
I actually slept through the race. And glad I did. The re-play on F1 TV nearly drove me crazy with Screemin' Simon's breathless commentary! Good grief he is AWFUL! I absolutely was laughing out loud as they got all excited about Hamilton passing Max, but it was Albon. Could they not see the yellow top cover!?  Crofty finds it hard to see when his mouth is open. |
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Post by Pistola on Nov 17, 2019 19:10:43 GMT -8
First Mclaren podium in ever? Finally McLaren and Honda on the podium. |
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Post by olderguysrule on Nov 18, 2019 5:18:53 GMT -8
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Post by olderguysrule on Nov 18, 2019 5:21:02 GMT -8
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Post by olderguysrule on Nov 18, 2019 6:21:26 GMT -8
the amazing thing to me was when the red cars touched, and as near as I can tell, it was a lightweight touch, Charlies car pretty much fell apart. WTF was that all about. like a couple of weeks ago, sebs car hit some bumps like everyone else and front end broke. this reminds me of a race in australia back in the 2K's. A McLaren went off the track a bit. went over drainage area of some sort, and it pretty much fell apart. :-)  |
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Post by Pistola on Nov 18, 2019 8:46:42 GMT -8
Doubt it's the FIA's fault. DRS signal is activated by crossing the timing loops in a less than second gap. The driver gets a light on the wheel and then pushes a button after he crosses the start of the DRS zone. Fully the FIA's fault - if DRS can't be used in a Yellow Flag Zone - the DRS enabling signal needs to be turned off by the FIA for the Yellow Flag Zone. Sporting Regs. 21.5 |
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Post by mmi16 on Nov 18, 2019 13:16:22 GMT -8
Fully the FIA's fault - if DRS can't be used in a Yellow Flag Zone - the DRS enabling signal needs to be turned off by the FIA for the Yellow Flag Zone. Sporting Regs. 21.5 So - it is the FIA's Race Director's failure. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 14:03:49 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 14:19:12 GMT -8
James Allison: “We thought, well, let's let's give Lewis a chance to give his view, which we shouldn't have done because we didn't give him the right information. We said one place and it was two and secondly, we should have just made the call ourselves. So he uhmmed and ahhed for a second or two before diving in the pits, because he likes racing. But that was our mistake." What do you mean by 'we' & 'our' Allison?  |
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Post by Pistola on Nov 18, 2019 15:03:41 GMT -8
So - it is the FIA's Race Director's failure. Yes and no. He doesn't have to disable the DRS because the overriding track condition is the yellow flag which requires the driver to slow down appreciably and not to pass. Having the DRS open momentarily is not a violation per se if the system is active. Expect the FIA to fumble around and issue some kind of change which will be even more confusing. |
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Post by mikey on Nov 18, 2019 16:20:18 GMT -8
So - it is the FIA's Race Director's failure. Yes and no. He doesn't have to disable the DRS because the overriding track condition is the yellow flag which requires the driver to slow down appreciably and not to pass. Having the DRS open momentarily is not a violation per se if the system is active. Expect the FIA to fumble around and issue some kind of change which will be even more confusing. To me that's what caused the problem though, the 'beep' in the drivers ear means it's okay to use DRS, if he hears it and is racing why would anyone not use it, especially on a restart? They turn it off for the first two laps of the race then turn it on and the driver hears the 'beep' and pushes the button, why would you not turn it off during safety car times as well? Now when the yellow flag is waved on only a portion of the track that just happens to occur in a DRS zone that's a whole other issue and would require being able to turn the DRS on or off in zones and that's probably not available right now. |
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Post by mmi16 on Nov 18, 2019 17:21:55 GMT -8
Yes and no. He doesn't have to disable the DRS because the overriding track condition is the yellow flag which requires the driver to slow down appreciably and not to pass. Having the DRS open momentarily is not a violation per se if the system is active. Expect the FIA to fumble around and issue some kind of change which will be even more confusing. To me that's what caused the problem though, the 'beep' in the drivers ear means it's okay to use DRS, if he hears it and is racing why would anyone not use it, especially on a restart? They turn it off for the first two laps of the race then turn it on and the driver hears the 'beep' and pushes the button, why would you not turn it off during safety car times as well? Now when the yellow flag is waved on only a portion of the track that just happens to occur in a DRS zone that's a whole other issue and would require being able to turn the DRS on or off in zones and that's probably not available right now. Two or Three switches depending on the number of DRS zones - whoop dee f'n doo! A master switch that can operate ALL or the ability to operate individual switches when necessary. With what F1 has spent in creating DRS, being able to control DRS zones individually is pocket change. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 19:28:12 GMT -8
Eliminate DRS once and for all! DRS sucks!
And That's That!
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Post by speeddemon787 on Nov 18, 2019 19:51:14 GMT -8
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Post by ChemEng on Nov 19, 2019 20:33:01 GMT -8
Some may have noticed a close-up view of Hamilton’s damaged front wing at the end of the race. It showed a white foamy looking material sandwiched between the outer carbon fiber skins. I think this is most likely a syntactic core filler rather than Styrofoam or anything like that. It is usually made from hollow glass microspheres dispersed in epoxy resin. It is very light in weight and has reasonably good compressive strength, but relatively low shear and tensile strength so it is mostly used as a filler in structures that require more thickness that strength. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntactic_foam |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 13:05:30 GMT -8
^ So, 'Bakelite' is back as a high-tech material?  |
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Post by kingfisher on Nov 21, 2019 20:13:55 GMT -8
Whenever the championship has long-been decided, it's always entertaining to watch mayhem on the track. I like the fact Lewis almost always races for the best result except when he takes out a title competitor. Albon certainly did not deserve being relegated even though he himself conceded incorrectly that Lewis would have probably overtaken him going into T1 the following lap. I was hoping by that stage that the Red Bull teams would sweep the podium for a Honda domination party, even if they were cheating burning the midnight motor oil somehow. Ferrari must've employed balsa wood suspension pieces. There is no way in hell that Leclerc should have suffered the failure he did unless it was severely weakened previously. The stewards fucked up hugely again in not applying the penalty to Hamilton immediately. Clear cut and precedented! They robbed Sainz, McLaren and everyone else of their rightful spot on the podium for which there can never be any recompense. Monty Python's Flying Circus.
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Korean cable TV is lousy. no more NASCAR nor NHRA