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Post by mmi16 on Oct 27, 2019 12:13:04 GMT -8
Ferrari F's Lec's pit stop
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Post by mmi16 on Oct 27, 2019 12:23:13 GMT -8
Norris retires
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Post by mmi16 on Oct 27, 2019 12:24:01 GMT -8
Max to 6th with Ricciardo finally pitting.
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Post by Sabrina81 on Oct 27, 2019 12:51:20 GMT -8
Whelp. That was a thing.
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Post by olderguysrule on Oct 27, 2019 12:52:29 GMT -8
the red cars have the pace to start at the front, but they don't have the "race" pace to stay in front. :-(
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Oct 27, 2019 13:00:09 GMT -8
ESPN3 Is not on my service, so it looks like Spanish for me. For everyone who hates the Sky crew, you ought to try it. "Hamilton" is pronounced the same in Spanish as it is in English.😉 espn 3 is a streaming site, NOT a tv channel If you have internet and espn on your TV package, you have espn3
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Post by wilmywood8455 on Oct 27, 2019 14:11:22 GMT -8
This race will be repeated on espn2 tonight at 830pm and on espnnews at midnight, both EDT
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Post by chernaudi on Oct 27, 2019 14:51:51 GMT -8
lulu and mad max. got together. :-) on turn one Kinda my dream because now I can say this: "like two soiled assholes fighting over raw sewage"
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Post by Pistola on Oct 28, 2019 7:46:21 GMT -8
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Oct 28, 2019 7:51:54 GMT -8
the red cars have the pace to start at the front, but they don't have the "race" pace to stay in front. :-( They don't have the proper strategy to stay in front either, which I think is actually more important.
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Post by Pistola on Oct 28, 2019 14:18:08 GMT -8
the red cars have the pace to start at the front, but they don't have the "race" pace to stay in front. :-( They don't have the proper strategy to stay in front either, which I think is actually more important. The problem with being in front is you have at least 5 drivers, 2 or even 3 teams, analytical software, and countless people at the track and at the home bases looking at the data and trying to screw your ass. It seems that while the start is important where you are at before first stops is the most important.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Oct 28, 2019 14:44:03 GMT -8
They don't have the proper strategy to stay in front either, which I think is actually more important. The problem with being in front is you have at least 5 drivers, 2 or even 3 teams, analytical software, and countless people at the track and at the home bases looking at the data and trying to screw your ass. It seems that while the start is important where you are at before first stops is the most important. Maybe, but her seems to be pattern that no matter what Ferrari do it is the wrong tactical decision while whatever Mercedes do it is the right decision, and Hamilton will whine like a little girl and question that decision but still win the race.
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Post by Pistola on Oct 28, 2019 14:55:50 GMT -8
Ferrari doesn't have the race pace to build the kind of gap that Mercedes can't work with.
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Post by mikey on Oct 28, 2019 15:04:36 GMT -8
They don't have the proper strategy to stay in front either, which I think is actually more important. The problem with being in front is you have at least 5 drivers, 2 or even 3 teams, analytical software, and countless people at the track and at the home bases looking at the data and trying to screw your ass. It seems that while the start is important where you are at before first stops is the most important. So how does Mercedes do it when they are in front? Sure it's hard but winning is hard, if Mercedes can figure it out Ferrari damn well better or just give up!! What is the point of making the best engine in the field if you lose the race on strategy? It's not like people are buying Ferrari crate engines and putting them in their Chevy Belair or whatever.
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Post by mikey on Oct 28, 2019 15:06:00 GMT -8
Ferrari doesn't have the race pace to build the kind of gap that Mercedes can't work with. So is that the next 20 million dollar problem?
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Oct 28, 2019 15:35:37 GMT -8
Ferrari doesn't have the race pace to build the kind of gap that Mercedes can't work with. I used to think it was that but now I am not so sure. I am starting to think Ferrari just consistently makes the wrong call.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Oct 28, 2019 15:36:47 GMT -8
Ricciardo should get a drive with a top team just so we can hear him on the radio more.
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Post by Pistola on Oct 28, 2019 15:52:40 GMT -8
Ferrari doesn't have the race pace to build the kind of gap that Mercedes can't work with. I used to think it was that but now I am not so sure. I am starting to think Ferrari just consistently makes the wrong call. It's all about options. Mercedes has more on Sunday.
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Post by jmjgt on Oct 28, 2019 16:56:01 GMT -8
The problem with being in front is you have at least 5 drivers, 2 or even 3 teams, analytical software, and countless people at the track and at the home bases looking at the data and trying to screw your ass. It seems that while the start is important where you are at before first stops is the most important. Maybe, but her seems to be pattern that no matter what Ferrari do it is the wrong tactical decision while whatever Mercedes do it is the right decision, and Hamilton will whine like a little girl and question that decision but still win the race. All that whining and moaning may be part of Merc's deceptive strategy, like how they feint pit stops.
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Post by Carlo_Carrera on Oct 28, 2019 17:57:27 GMT -8
I used to think it was that but now I am not so sure. I am starting to think Ferrari just consistently makes the wrong call. It's all about options. Mercedes has more on Sunday. I really don't think so, Ferrari had the same options as Mercedes in Mexico but Mercedes chose the right ones. They pitted Leclerc to cover Albon. I have no idea why. They left Vettel out instead of covering Hamilton. Again I have no idea why. They had Leclerc on an opposite strategy to Hamilton, why not just cover Hamilton with Vettel? Mercedes on the other hand puts Hamilton on the optimum one stop. Pirelli stated the Mediums would last 50 laps Hamilton does 50 laps on them and wins. Mercedes put Bottas on a strategy to shadow Vettel and by doing so they move Bottas up to third dropping Leclerc from pole to a fourth place finish. His f'ed up pit stop made no difference. Leclerc was never going to pass Bottas on track.
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